The Argali Clothing Project

[Brad@Argali]

I'm looking for a hot weather pant. I expect up to 110 degrees feels like temperature, lows likely no less than 80. So gsm and breathability is my top priority for this specific application.

The pants are about 197 GSM. I will say the weight of the fabric isn't the only thing that makes them breathable (or not). The weave is also important for breathability as are the structure and length of the vents. I have used the Vesper in 103 degree heat, and while in heat like that I wouldn't say it feels great to wear pants, the Vespers did breathe better than any other pant I own, especially with the hip vents fully open and the fly open. FWIW, fly down and hip vents open for ventilation feels like a cheat code.

 

[Samson7x]

What GSM is the Vesper material? What's the weight in size medium?

Mindful hunter just did a favorable review of these, might be worth a watch for you. My hot weather pant has always been kutana but I may give these a try.

 

[Geewhiz]

fly down and hip vents open for ventilation feels like a cheat code.

I thought I was the only one.

 

[Brad@Argali]

Mindful hunter just did a favorable review of these, might be worth a watch for you. My hot weather pant has always been kutana but I may give these a try.

One note on that: In our testing last fall, we had a lot of people use the Vesper during archery season and for the people that were Kutana fans previously, the Vesper was referenced by all of them as very comparable in terms of hot weather performance. I've never used or touched the Kutana so I can't comment on it, but it was a common refrain.

 

[JakeShmevans]

Brad@Argali​

Any updated timeline on the puffy jacket?

 

[Brad@Argali]

Brad@Argali​

Any updated timeline on the puffy jacket?

Great timing as we just recieved our final sample run for the Octane and Ion. Very happy with them. Mike Moore will be getting a set of the jackets as well so keep an eye out for his comments.

 

[JakeShmevans]

Great timing as we just recieved our final sample run for the Octane and Ion. Very happy with them. Mike Moore will be getting a set of the jackets as well so keep an eye out for his comments.

Awesome! I will keep an eye out.

 

[mtwarden]

Great timing as we just recieved our final sample run for the Octane and Ion. Very happy with them. Mike Moore will be getting a set of the jackets as well so keep an eye out for his comments.

Octane
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/new-for-26-argali-octane-jacket.458022/

Ion
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/new-for-26-argali-ion-puffy.458024/

 

[Brad@Argali]

Octane
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/new-for-26-argali-octane-jacket.458022/

Ion
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/new-for-26-argali-ion-puffy.458024/

Thanks, Mike! If anyone has any questions for me, I'll try to answer them on this thread as best I can.

 

[croben]

Thanks, Mike! If anyone has any questions for me, I'll try to answer them on this thread as best I can.

@Brad@Argali
Is there any chance of the Vesper and Torex pants coming with an internal belt?

 

[Brad@Argali]

@Brad@Argali
Is there any chance of the Vesper and Torex pants coming with an internal belt?

We are going to make a pant with a internal belt, but it will be a while before it comes to market.

 

[7PRC Pharmacy]

Great timing as we just recieved our final sample run for the Octane and Ion. Very happy with them. Mike Moore will be getting a set of the jackets as well so keep an eye out for his comments.

Are these the jackets you will be sending out to the next round of testers?

 

[Brad@Argali]

Are these the jackets you will be sending out to the next round of testers?

We are sending quite a few out right now for field for use this fall, so yes if that's what you mean. When I think of testing though I think of sending out something that isn't "done" yet so you can tweak materials, fit, etc. We did all of our in depth field testing and feedback stage last fall on these jackets and what we have now are "final" products based on that, with the caveat that we are making a couple minor changes for production. The Ion Puffy Jacket that Mike has has an off-set chest color pocket, and the production run will not have a different color chest pocket. But the materials and designs won't change as we've been testing these for about 2 years now.

 

[7PRC Pharmacy]

We are sending quite a few out right now for field for use this fall, so yes if that's what you mean. When I think of testing though I think of sending out something that isn't "done" yet so you can tweak materials, fit, etc. We did all of our in depth field testing and feedback stage last fall on these jackets and what we have now are "final" products based on that, with the caveat that we are making a couple minor changes for production. The Ion Puffy Jacket that Mike has has an off-set chest color pocket, and the production run will not have a different color chest pocket. But the materials and designs won't change as we've been testing these for about 2 years now.

Ah gotcha that makes sense. I was lucky enough to be selected for field testing this fall so was just curious if these jackets were on the list for field testing as they look awesome. Can't wait to get my hands on the Octane in particular when it reaches production.

 

[croben]

We are going to make a pant with an internal belt, but it will be a while before it comes to market.

Thanks for the update!

 

[Brad@Argali]

Ah gotcha that makes sense. I was lucky enough to be selected for field testing this fall so was just curious if these jackets were on the list for field testing as they look awesome. Can't wait to get my hands on the Octane in particular when it reaches production.

Oh I gotchya. We have two people that will get these jackets from our Thread email list winners. And we have some other new stuff the others are going to get to test but I can't spill the beans on those pieces just yet. if you are one of the ones that will get to use these this fall you will get an email by next week.