The Argali Clothing Project

Pants ordered. Looking forward to trying them out. Very smooth presale access and checkout process. Thanks for the presale Brad and thanks for pushing the technical clothing market.
 
Will the link be sent out at 9? Wasn’t sure if I missed the link email.

Also, is the top an athletic fit? Being 5’11 and 190lbs, it puts me right inbetween large and xtra large, depending on athletic vs relaxed fit.


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Yes you should have recieved it, but if you had any issues feel free to email our CS team and they can email it to you! [email protected]
 
Will the link be sent out at 9? Wasn’t sure if I missed the link email.

Also, is the top an athletic fit? Being 5’11 and 190lbs, it puts me right inbetween large and xtra large, depending on athletic vs relaxed fit.


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The Guide Fleece does have an athletic fit. I would order a Large for you unless you like a baggy fit, go with an XL.
 
Just ordered 2 of the guide fleece and a pair each of the vesper and Torrex, really looking forward to trying them out!
 
how tapered are the legs? I like my leg openings to effortlessly go over the top of my hiking boots and not have to pull or work them down over the boots.
 
how tapered are the legs? I like my leg openings to effortlessly go over the top of my hiking boots and not have to pull or work them down over the boots.
I’ve never found myself having to make any effort to get our pants on over boots, but we have photos and videos on the product pages showing the pants over boots to give you some idea of what they look like.
 
Pants ordered. If we would like to review does it matter to brad@argali if the review is in this thread or a new one? So far I am very hopeful this product will do well.
 
Pants ordered. If we would like to review does it matter to brad@argali if the review is in this thread or a new one? So far I am very hopeful this product will do well.
Totally up to you but more people will likely see it on this thread.
 
Can anyone give real world sizing on the pants? I’m constantly stuck between 32 and 34, some manufacturers 32s are great and some 32s are way too tight. Born primitive 34s fit great, first 34s are quite baggy. I’m 5’11 185-190lbs for reference. Thanks!


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Can anyone give real world sizing on the pants? I’m constantly stuck between 32 and 34, some manufacturers 32s are great and some 32s are way too tight. Born primitive 34s fit great, first 34s are quite baggy. I’m 5’11 185-190lbs for reference. Thanks!


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Our pants are true to size waist fit (no vanity sizing), so if your waist is a 32, you will be a 32 waist. I would think about what your average waist size is in your other pants and use that as a guide. If 32's are typically too tight, you'll want to bump up to a 34, but if you normally wear 32's in other pants most of the time the 32s should fit. Check out the reviews on our pants on the product pages which might help you out as well. I'm 6'1", 182 and I wear a 32.
 
I can't believe I have to write this. I literally created a rokslide account just to post this comment. And this is for the Argali team, Brad Brooks, and more specifically, the customer. I have been designing clothing in the outdoor industry for over 20 years. I moved into the hunting industry about 12 years ago, then exited back to snow sports/mountaineering, etc after 6 years (I would rather just hunt then make things for hunters)

Please take note: a pant zipper going to the top edge of the waist band WILL NOT prohibit waistband growth in any way. I don't know who told them that or why they didn't vet that out, but in my 20+ year career, that is hands down the most absurd claim, and outright lie, I have ever seen published on a brands website for a product. Please do not fall for that type of low hanging snake oil. 5/8" width of zipper tape and teeth will never assist in 29" (on the low end) of fabric responding to weight, moisture, climate, debris, etc. . .

Another claim that caught my eye: "one handed zipper operation". No kidding man, its a horizontal zipper. Thats like saying you use an umbrella in the rain so you don't get wet.

This type of pandering drives me crazy. Brad takes a lot of shots at bigger brands in the industry, and here he is talking down to his own customer. Kind of wild to me. Based on 6months of inflated claims and big marketing talk, to come to market with this must be a joke. Like I said, I've been doin this a long damn time. I don't even want to touch the stuff after reading lazy copy like that. Do way better-the customer deserves it.
 
I can't believe I have to write this. I literally created a rokslide account just to post this comment. And this is for the Argali team, Brad Brooks, and more specifically, the customer. I have been designing clothing in the outdoor industry for over 20 years. I moved into the hunting industry about 12 years ago, then exited back to snow sports/mountaineering, etc after 6 years (I would rather just hunt then make things for hunters)

Please take note: a pant zipper going to the top edge of the waist band WILL NOT prohibit waistband growth in any way. I don't know who told them that or why they didn't vet that out, but in my 20+ year career, that is hands down the most absurd claim, and outright lie, I have ever seen published on a brands website for a product. Please do not fall for that type of low hanging snake oil. 5/8" width of zipper tape and teeth will never assist in 29" (on the low end) of fabric responding to weight, moisture, climate, debris, etc. . .

Another claim that caught my eye: "one handed zipper operation". No kidding man, its a horizontal zipper. Thats like saying you use an umbrella in the rain so you don't get wet.

This type of pandering drives me crazy. Brad takes a lot of shots at bigger brands in the industry, and here he is talking down to his own customer. Kind of wild to me. Based on 6months of inflated claims and big marketing talk, to come to market with this must be a joke. Like I said, I've been doin this a long damn time. I don't even want to touch the stuff after reading lazy copy like that. Do way better-the customer deserves it.

Why wouldn’t you message Brad direct instead of calling him out on a thread for everybody to see…if Brad made a claim and somebody called him about after they purchased it, that would be between Brad and the customer and I’m sure he would do everything within his power to make it right just from what I’ve read on here and how he has responded so far. You are the typical keyboard warrior that wants to be heard. Get a life…


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Why wouldn’t you message Brad direct instead of calling him out on a thread for everybody to see…if Brad made a claim and somebody called him about after they purchased it, that would be between Brad and the customer and I’m sure he would do everything within his power to make it right just from what I’ve read on here and how he has responded so far. You are the typical keyboard warrior that wants to be heard. Get a life…


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No, I want the customer to be aware. I am literally not a keyboard warrior. I created this account 10mins ago, and said what I said. I don't care about rokslide, I don't care about message boards. But this sort of information is why the customer is so confused. It is damage for every one. And something so egregiously false needs to be addressed immediately, in public, so we can be educated on not buying gear that doesn't work. You can't TALK about making "the best western hunting gear" and then publish outlandish lies. Thats not how it works.
 
I can't believe I have to write this. I literally created a rokslide account just to post this comment. And this is for the Argali team, Brad Brooks, and more specifically, the customer. I have been designing clothing in the outdoor industry for over 20 years. I moved into the hunting industry about 12 years ago, then exited back to snow sports/mountaineering, etc after 6 years (I would rather just hunt then make things for hunters)

Please take note: a pant zipper going to the top edge of the waist band WILL NOT prohibit waistband growth in any way. I don't know who told them that or why they didn't vet that out, but in my 20+ year career, that is hands down the most absurd claim, and outright lie, I have ever seen published on a brands website for a product. Please do not fall for that type of low hanging snake oil. 5/8" width of zipper tape and teeth will never assist in 29" (on the low end) of fabric responding to weight, moisture, climate, debris, etc. . .

Another claim that caught my eye: "one handed zipper operation". No kidding man, its a horizontal zipper. Thats like saying you use an umbrella in the rain so you don't get wet.

This type of pandering drives me crazy. Brad takes a lot of shots at bigger brands in the industry, and here he is talking down to his own customer. Kind of wild to me. Based on 6months of inflated claims and big marketing talk, to come to market with this must be a joke. Like I said, I've been doin this a long damn time. I don't even want to touch the stuff after reading lazy copy like that. Do way better-the customer deserves it.

Have you ever designed a pair of pants with the zipper running to the top edge of the waist band? If so, did you test them? If so, what did you find out about the design?

These pants have been tested by a bunch of people for quite a while. There’s some of those people (who we actually KNOW use their gear) who have chimed in with very positive feedback. If this zipper design was a major issue, I think we’d know about it.


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