The 22 creedmoor thread

[43.6N]

77tmk
42.5gr N555
Alpha brass
16.25” Wilson barrel (shots 60-90)

30 shots of the above reload.
3120fps. And would have stiff bolt lift when I let the rounds cook in a hot chamber before firing.

This is more velocity than expected. I’m going to drop down to 42.0, seat them out a little longer, and report back.

 

[Carl Ross]

Starting to chase yet?

Some. It clearly wasn't peak rut, but he was distracted by some ladies when he ran out in front of me.

ETA, that was on the 8th.

 

[Formidilosus]

Some. It clearly wasn't peak rut, but he was distracted by some ladies when he ran out in front of me.

ETA, that was on the 8th.

Ahhh. I wasn’t seeing anything really on the 9th.

 

[Carl Ross]

Ahhh. I wasn’t seeing anything really on the 9th.

Probably saw rut behavior from ~ 1/3 of the deer we put eyes on.

This 4 point was eyeing these ladies up pretty hard in a Bridger foothills subdivision about five minutes ago.

 

[amassi]

What cartridge was the 88 ELDM designed for? It seems that I've observed many with the 22CM not be happy with the accuracy but others who have used it in the 223, 223AI, 22 ARC, 22BR,and 22 GT be very happy with it. Could it be that the 88 is picky at Creedmoor speeds but more forgiving at speeds 200 to 400 fps lower? I haven't had time to test the 88's from UM in my 22CM yet but they shoot great from my 22 ARC in factory Hornady ammo.

Jay

22valkyrie maybe? Timing lines up


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[amassi]

Man, I bet that 73 ELDM screams out of the 22 Creedmoor.

The 73 is designed for mag length 223/5.56
The 75 is a better CM bullet and yes it does scream
3600 fps out of a 24” Makes for a real flat shooting wind bucking cartridge


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[KHntr]

@KHntr

Referencing our conversation about 223ai.

What are your thoughts here?

I’m with mcccdjxgsbdjdgsnshx too. Not enough info yet, but I’m leaning towards the 88 not quite being THE bullet for the Creed.

If I could only have one rifle and one bullet for the rest of my life for deer/elk/moose/grizzly defense, it’s absolutely going to be a 223/223AI 1:7 with 88’s.

But lemme kill another box car worth of critters with the Creed juuuuust to make sure.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Took another booner billy this weekend with the 22cm at 643m, specs below. I was a bit hesitant to post this but figure the data and proof is there for y'all to interpret and make your own decisions.

I stuck with @Formidilosus rec on 1800 FPS with the ELDX/M

80gr ELDX ~3057 - 40.0 of H4350 in Alpha LRP w/ CCI200 out of an 18" barrel

 

[Schmo]

I’ll see myself out of the 22 Creed thread and meet you in the middle in the 6mm one

And I call dibs your 22 Creed barrel!

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Took another booner billy this weekend with the 22cm at 643m, specs below. I was a bit hesitant to post this but figure the data and proof is there for y'all to interpret and make your own decisions.

I stuck with @Formidilosus rec on 1800 FPS with the ELDX/M

80gr ELDX ~3057 - 40.0 of H4350 in Alpha LRP w/ CCI200 out of an 18" barrel

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Heck yeah!

 

[Barnell]

I’ve seen a lot of good about the Eldm but joined the party a little late and haven’t seen much on the 90grain Berger. My gun shoots 90 grain good but I’m curious if anyone has any experience on game with it vs eldm? I’ve never tried the eldm but am open to it if it means better terminal performance.

 

[NoDakhunter]

75 ELDM. Impact velocity of about 2200. High shoulder DRT. Not a great wind call and a touch high. Was hoping to stick one in the lungs for some better data with the 75, but not mad about instant incapacitation
Photo with front quarter removed. Barely any meat loss on front quarter. Found some fragments in offside hide at base of neck.

 

[Mountain_Life]

About halfway through the first season with my 22cm. 16" PBB, 88eldm, 2,970 @ muzzle. I thought I'd share some of my results.

Mature mule deer buck at 450 yards. Broadside. First shot was into ribs behind shoulder, it took 2 jumps and stopped with head hanging. Shot it again in nearly the same spot with no reaction. Put 3rd shot at base of neck and it folded. Recovered 2 of the 3 bullets against offside hide. 3rd one didn't exit and was likely close to hide as well. So much blood amd carnage that it was hard to see it.


1 whitetail doe shot once at 280 yards through heart, broadside. Ran hard for 40ish yards and died. No exit. No photos

1 whitetail doe shot facing us at 100 yards. Made a 30 yard staggering circle and died. No photos

1 mature whitetail buck shot offhand at 50 yards bedded, broadside. It kicked in a circle but never got to it's feet. Massive exit wound


1 cow elk shot once facing me at 289 yards. She ran/fell 30 yards down a steep hill and collapsed. No exit wound.

1 cow elk shot once broadside at 330 yards, quartering towards. Shot placement was center of front shoulder. Broke front leg but didn't exit. Diaphragm was likely broken because the guts were disrupted when I opened the cavity to remove the tenderloins. She ran about 10 yards and slid another 10 yards down a hill. Dead when I got to her.


The only complaint I have is the lack of consistent exits, so blood trails have not been great. I don't know that there's a solution to this in .22 but occasionally it does make me think about my 300wm and the consistent broadside exits I got on deer with eldms. All recovery's have been short and successful but it's not a comforting feeling when a deer leaves my sight running in thick cover with light fading. I shot a .243 with 80something grain Bergers for a season and had some great exits on a sample size of about 4-5.

 

[Schmo]

About halfway through the first season with my 22cm. 16" PBB, 88eldm, 2,970 @ muzzle. I thought I'd share some of my results.

Mature mule deer buck at 450 yards. Broadside. First shot was into ribs behind shoulder, it took 2 jumps and stopped with head hanging. Shot it again in nearly the same spot with no reaction. Put 3rd shot at base of neck and it folded. Recovered 2 of the 3 bullets against offside hide. 3rd one didn't exit and was likely close to hide as well. So much blood amd carnage that it was hard to see it.
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1 whitetail doe shot once at 280 yards through heart, broadside. Ran hard for 40ish yards and died. No exit. No photos

1 whitetail doe shot facing us at 100 yards. Made a 30 yard staggering circle and died. No photos

1 mature whitetail buck shot offhand at 50 yards bedded, broadside. It kicked in a circle but never got to it's feet. Massive exit wound
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1 cow elk shot once facing me at 289 yards. She ran/fell 30 yards down a steep hill and collapsed. No exit wound.

1 cow elk shot once broadside at 330 yards, quartering towards. Shot placement was center of front shoulder. Broke front leg but didn't exit. Diaphragm was likely broken because the guts were disrupted when I opened the cavity to remove the tenderloins. She ran about 10 yards and slid another 10 yards down a hill. Dead when I got to her.
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The only complaint I have is the lack of consistent exits, so blood trails have not been great. I don't know that there's a solution to this in .22 but occasionally it does make me think about my 300wm and the consistent broadside exits I got on deer with eldms. All recovery's have been short and successful but it's not a comforting feeling when a deer leaves my sight running in thick cover with light fading. Open to thoughts this. I shot a .243 with 80something grain Bergers for a season and had some great exits on a sample size of about 4-5.

So 6 animals, two of which were elk, the furthest any animal made it was 40 yards, and you need more?

 

[Mountain_Life]

So 6 animals, two of which were elk, the furthest any animal made it was 40 yards, and you need more?

I didn't say I needed more. I said my only complaint is the lack of blood trails. Not always an issue, but anyone that has tried to find a deer in thick cover and poor tracking ground in the dark knows how much blood can help. It's not enough to make me change immediately but it's enough to make me notice it.

 

[Schmo]

I didn't say I needed more. I said my only complaint is the lack of blood trails. Not always an issue, but anyone that has tried to find a deer in thick cover and poor tracking ground in the dark knows how much blood can help. It's not enough to make me change immediately but it's enough to make me notice it.

I guess I don’t really get your complaint. They’re not going far enough to need a trail. If you have some nasty thick stuff they’re close to, and you can’t risk them getting to it, shoot base of neck, or through the front shoulders.

 

[Mountain_Life]

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