teach me about tipi liners. want to put one in my tigoat tipi

[bard]

I have a tigoat 8 man tipi. its nice and dry with the stove burning but I don't like the condensation when its wet outside or by morning if we let the stove go out. a lot of my trips in the next few years will not be near as weight sensitive so it would be worth the weight. was thinking of putting a liner in it. is it a project worth doing or better off going and buying one from tigoat? what material would work best? what connects the liner to the tent? should I do a half liner or full? do they help with bugs as well? ive never even seen a tipi with a liner set up so any and all info and tips will be a big help. im not that handy with a needle and thread but im the son of a seamstress so between the 2 of us we should be able to figure it out.

 

[Kevin Dill]

I have an 8-man and a Sawtooth by Kifaru; both with liners. I think if you had one to see/study you could potentially make one for your Ti-Goat tipi. The key for me would be that it fits and hangs correctly with minimal or NO sag which robs internal space. You want the liner to follow the contours of the tipi 'wall' and maintain a constant space of at least 2" for air circulation. Your liner doesn't need to extend to the cone. Just get it to the 5-1/2 to 6-0 ft level. In all likelihood your tipi probably has some sort of internal webbing/loops or tie-off points at that height designed for the liner. If it doesn't have them, you'll need to add them yourself. The top of your liner needs matching ties to attach it. Same thing applies at the bottom of the liner with regards to tie loops. If everything is good, your liner will be fairly taut and follow the wall contour. To imagine what a full liner looks like, imagine your tipi with the top clipped. That's what you are creating. You'll need openings (think 'slits') for the doors. All edge-areas of the liner will be secured with ties. The liner material needs to be soft and thin (such as silnylon) and basically waterproof. Condensation drips onto the outer aspect of the liner and then runs down the liner to the bottom edge where it drips to the ground. A liner which absorbs any moisture is a definite no-no.

I personally wouldn't do my own liner unless I had a lot of time and patience, plus material and enough skill to do it correctly. I think all the tie-offs and fitment issues would give me a headache. As far as full liner vs partial, just know that any unprotected areas are going to drip or shower. If that doesn't matter, then save weight and fabric. Me...I'll take as much dry space as I can get. Never know when an extra man needs to jump in, or that dry space is useful for firewood, gear storage, etc.

 

[Beastmode]

I have an 8-man and a Sawtooth by Kifaru; both with liners. I think if you had one to see/study you could potentially make one for your Ti-Goat tipi. The key for me would be that it fits and hangs correctly with minimal or NO sag which robs internal space. You want the liner to follow the contours of the tipi 'wall' and maintain a constant space of at least 2" for air circulation. Your liner doesn't need to extend to the cone. Just get it to the 5-1/2 to 6-0 ft level. In all likelihood your tipi probably has some sort of internal webbing/loops or tie-off points at that height designed for the liner. If it doesn't have them, you'll need to add them yourself. The top of your liner needs matching ties to attach it. Same thing applies at the bottom of the liner with regards to tie loops. If everything is good, your liner will be fairly taut and follow the wall contour. To imagine what a full liner looks like, imagine your tipi with the top clipped. That's what you are creating. You'll need openings (think 'slits') for the doors. All edge-areas of the liner will be secured with ties. The liner material needs to be soft and thin (such as silnylon) and basically waterproof. Condensation drips onto the outer aspect of the liner and then runs down the liner to the bottom edge where it drips to the ground. A liner which absorbs any moisture is a definite no-no.

I personally wouldn't do my own liner unless I had a lot of time and patience, plus material and enough skill to do it correctly. I think all the tie-offs and fitment issues would give me a headache. As far as full liner vs partial, just know that any unprotected areas are going to drip or shower. If that doesn't matter, then save weight and fabric. Me...I'll take as much dry space as I can get. Never know when an extra man needs to jump in, or that dry space is useful for firewood, gear storage, etc.

Kevin pretty much nailed it.

 

[bard]

Great info Kevin. Thanks.

 

[rayporter]

i agree with kevin pretty much.

i sold my liners and then took a bud that was paranoid and wanted a liner. i rigged a liner from mosquito netting. easy, cheap and quick. not perfect but it made him happy. the liner just dont need to be as strong or as perfect as the tipi. in pinch you could hang a synthetic sheet up. cotton would probably not work well.

 

[AKHUNTER]

I have the Vertex 8 and purchased a liner for it a few yrs ago. I actually took a few pics of it when I first set it up. The top of the liner simply fits under the center pole - so it goes all the way to the top. It has an opening and spreader thingy to accommodate a stove pipe. The bottom of the liner has shock cords that you can attach to the tent stakes or make a little loop so the shock cord loops through the stake loop on the tipi. It works very well, better IMO than the Kifaru liner my buddy has. Using a shock cord system seems to keep it taught with no fuss. Seems crazy to spend $250 or whatever it was, but, it's worth it on extended fall hunts. Going brown bear hunting tomorrow. Good luck.

 

[reaper]

sorry in advance for my weird question but ''with the addition of a liner does the inside tipi will be smaller because of a second wall???''
Thinking of upgrading my seekoutside 4 man with a liner but not sure if it will be tight or have some sag.

 

[Zricky]

For liner material try Silk. A lot of sleeping bag manufactures recommend silk liners in their bags. I also do not think the liner should be waterproof. You want water/condensation to permeate through the liner. If silk is a no go then probably 1.1 OZ nylon

 

[wowzers]

I have a TiGoat 6.5 and I’d like to get a liner for it. Short of finding one, which is a long shot, did anyone ended up making one?

 

[Arctic Hunter]

I have a TiGoat 6.5 and I’d like to get a liner for it. Short of finding one, which is a long shot, did anyone ended up making one?

I’m in the same boat. I’ve been using a 6.5 for years without a liner. But I’d like to make one. I thought about 20d nylon because that’s what SO uses, but I don’t know a lot about it.

 

[TheAri]

There’s a guy here that takes custom order sewing jobs, could reach out to him. Can’t remember his name but he does a lot of ditty bag orders