An update. All 4 of the reveal 1st gen I bought are down now. I bought them primarily for security. They are not doing me much good sitting in a box at home. Prior to this I was overcharged when renewing and that wasn't refunded by them. I only renewed 2 cameras, 2 were down. They charged me for 3, and never rectified the problem when I call in. The data charges they charge are crazy to begin with. As I previously mentioned my reolink use far more data, and I don't even notice it on my cell plan. They have also worked for years without grief. Too bad they need a solar panel. If they had an option for lithium double a I would have a few more.