Synthetic or down bags

More so not worried when I'm sleeping, as I'm on a pad and in a bivy for the most part. But when I take my quilt or bag outside of my sleeping area to glass with, fish with or sit by the fire with.

And where I hunt in sd there is no running from the cactus! Small little buggers that you barely see till you got an ass, hand or knee full of spikes :)

Told you I would just sound like the crazy synthetic guy but it's just what I prefer. I prefer sleeping in it, beating it, getting it a little wet and washing it. Call me crazy but I think the extra pound is worth it to me. Though I'm not a real ul guy

Gotcha...I guess I am weird but I have yet to glass with, fish with, or sit around a camp fire with my bag yet to date. Its either in the tent/tipi or in a dry bag. Since you do a lot of other activities with your bag it sure sounds like a bag with a tough shell would be a good idea for sure down or not!

You might look into Western Mountaineering Gore Windstopper Series if you are looking for a nice down bag given all you do with your bag besides sleeping in it. Their 15 degree badger is 2 pounds 6 oz which is pretty impressive as I find their temp ratings very true and that shell is pretty tough stuff compared to most sleeping bag shells.
 
I prefer sleeping in it, beating it, getting it a little wet and washing it.

Personally with all your extra curricular activities that you do inside your bag at night, I would definitely suggest a synthetic bag for the ease of cleaning up after yourself. :-)
 
I guess, here we go, to be a little more clear

Ill clarify for the op, I don't have nearly the experience some of these guys do. Some of these guys have probably spent more time backpacking than time that I have been alive. That's not to say my experience with my bags is not valid, nor does it mean that I am stupid to use synthetic (though there are a few people would vouch on the stupid part!) It is simply my preference.

I will say this, down is not a bad choice imo for a sleeping bag, that's going to be used only for sleeping in. Obviously down is the majority. While I don't have the nights in field that some of these guys do, I have spent a good handful of nights living off my back, and I think iv spent enough to figure out what I prefer.

I guess ill outline a few reasons why I like synthetic over down.

-No worry about leakage, snagging fabric, or poking holes. Iv put small rips in a down bag, along with gotten small holes, from sharp grass, causing leakage. Holes in down need to be patched fast, where as synthetic a small snag is no big deal, nor is a burn hole. Im speaking now of marmot bags that I have used in saying the outer fabric just is not as tough as what I use in my kifaru synthetics. My marmot down bags were just not as tough as my kifaru synthetic, period.

-Loft does not degrade as it gets wet in synthetic. Wether it gets wet cause I was stupid, or from extended nights of getting in it damp. Once I got my down a little damp, I didn't care for the feeling of sleeping in it. Loft degraded, and I was now spending time trying to dry some of the more wet parts of my bag. This is not coming from a backyard test, but week long trips living off my back in various areas in the lower 48. Condensation would accumulate and the down would get damp. Down holds moisture, fact. Is it a problem most of the time? Probably not. Maybe more of a nuisance than anything. But packing up my damp bag, only to be pulling it out, damp, day after day was not my favorite. Did it still work? yes.

-Down did not seem to dry me like synthetic does while im in it. Synthetic has always left me with a dry feeling, wether I got in it wet, or dry. In my synthetic stuff id purposely go to bed in my wet pants, knowing ill wake up dry.

-Down straight up stinks after a few weeks of sweating in it. And IMO its a pain to wash, not only that but putting my 400$ bag in the dryer is pretty nerve wracking as well. With synthetic I just wash, and let air dry. Easy. Not only that but synthetic didn't seem to hold the smell like my down bags did, even over a week long trip.

-My synthetic stuff is not only for sleeping it. Im not afraid to take it out to glass with, sit by the fire with, or fish with. Ill break it out in the canoe and fish with it on. Sit on a hillside on the prairie to glass with or sit by the fire with it. Something I personally would not have done with my 400$ down bag.

I don't use synthetic because of some phobia of getting wet and being miserable. I just prefer synthetic all around for the reasons I listed above. While reading my comments keep in mind I have only used marmot down bags (lithium and hydrogen) and for synthetic Kifaru. The things outlined did not happen on backyard outings or in my head, they happened using the gear in the field. I don't have the experience some guys on here have, and some of them have likely been backpacking since before I was born, but that is the conclusion I have come up with from spending the last 4 years backpacking, hunting and fishing with my sleeping bags.

Let the down vs synthetic war begin :)
 
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Personally with all your extra curricular activities that you do inside your bag at night, I would definitely suggest a synthetic bag for the ease of cleaning up after yourself. :-)

Beating it, not beating in it hahahah

And luke a WM bag has been on my radar for some time. Specifically their 1lb 30 Degree models. The weight savings and small pack size would sure be nice for weekend trips.

But hey, as backpackers don't we want to get the most use out of every piece of gear we carry?
 
But hey, as backpackers don't we want to get the most use out of every piece of gear we carry?

Sure I guess I just never felt the need to do much but use my bag/quilt in my shelter for weathering out storms or sleeping. Never thought of how it'd help me glass, fish, or hangout by the campfire. But to each their own.

Also I have about 100 nights straight in my WM bags without a dry cleaning and I haven't noticed any stink in them at all. Maybe ignorance is bliss, but that hasn't been an issue at all. Like I said you seem very active in your bag so a thick shelled bag sounds like a must for sure.

I spend roughly 20 nights or so a year in a synthetic bag. I think they are great when weight isn't a factor or conditions or situations make more sense to take it along than a down bag. Certainly nothing wrong with using whatcha got Lawnboi and so long as it makes sense for you then really thats all that matters right? Right on with the sleeping bag fishing, but next time lets see some pics!!! Sounds entertaining ;)
 
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I have read that the best Synthetic fills are roughly equivalent to the same amount of 550-600 fill Down. If the down bag you are considering is around that range you can probably get a Synthetic bag cheaper with the same performance.
 
I have both, but grab the down more often. Warmer, lighter, etc. if I expect wet weather I make extra efforts to be conscious of keeping it dry or bring a basic gortex bivy. Put it over the bag, yet still in the tent. The one I have is more of a sleeping bag cover than a true bivy. Never had an issue yet and sat through some nasty storms. Weighs almost nothing and gives me the option to not use the tent or spike camp if good weather.
 
I have no clue which one would be better for me I plan on using it for fall and winter but i just don't understand the pros and cons to both types of bags

Down or synthetic aside, you will get more for your money with a Kifaru Slick bag. The same quality of product in a down bag costs a lot more ;)
 
i have a down bag. a couple of them.

i will get a synthetic bag to complete the arsenal. like if i hunt the pacific northwest..i am probably gonna leave the down at home.

i am one of the few that absolutely HATED the slick bag. had a 20 degree slick. i couldnt sell it fast enough.

i have two super old bags. both north face bags. one is a sythetic bag the other is a down. i dont use them anymore..but the down bag is aging much much better. i dont even know the temp ratings anymore. i had them when i was a teenager.. early 20's, maybe.
 
Love my down quilt and I live the pacific north west. Used a regular bag system, both synthetic and down for more than 45 years. 2 years of Down Quilting it, has more than convinced me that I will never be going back to a conventional bag setup. To each their own I guess.;)
 
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