SWFA 6X vs 10X vs 3-15

[Castle Rock]

Wonder if an offset red dot wouldn’t be a bad idea

Dumb idea, just learn the gun and scope, as said before

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Am I gonna need offset backup irons or an RMR or am I just being dramatic?

You are being dramatic. Use the scope. As someone mentioned, put it on a squirrel or varmint or trainer, and practice with it. Take it with you on walks in the woods. You’ll figure out pretty quickly whether or not it works for you.

I’ve shot running deer at 40-80 yards moving laterally with a 10.8#, 26” long barrel, .25-06 with an 8x scope. Best woods rifle I ever owned. Last year I had to get it rebarreled, so I upgraded from the 1960’s era B&L 2.5-8x and put a SWFA 10x gen1 scope on it. I managed to keep the weight the same by cutting the barrel to 24” and adding an OG 6.5. While I’d rather have an 8x, I don’t have a problem finding the animal in the scope. That weapon accounted for four bucks this past year. None were running. Three of four were in mature woods. 80, 120, 125, and 200 (open field at dusk). There may be better “killing scopes” out there, but it was very effective in the hands of people who knew it and had used it before.

The only reason I sold that scope is because I had an impulse buy of a 3-9x on Black Friday.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Why don’t you like the offset dot idea, Q?

Adds unnecessary weight for zero gain.

What is the use case for an offset dot on a bolt action hunting rifle?

Do you really think that you are going to place a shot more precisely at 25 yards with an offset dot than just putting your crosshairs on the animal?

I love my older brother, but he has an offset sight on an AR-10 style rifle, which is otherwise set up for 200-800 yard combat. It’s just plain stupid. He has it there because he thinks he’s going to have to defend his home against a threat that doesn’t exist, under conditions in which he is simply going to die if it did exist.

If you think you need an offset dot on an AR, it’s because you are imagining a scenario that doesn’t really exist for civilians (or most soldiers for that matter) and/or you have too much scope on your AR.

But hey, I am not a CQB ninja, never done live fire in a shoot house, don’t practice for the scenario above, and all I really know is my own limitations.

But whatever you have, if you practice with it, I am sure it can work well for you.

 

[Ajsomp]

Adds unnecessary weight for zero gain.

What is the use case for an offset dot on a bolt action hunting rifle?

Do you really think that you are going to place a shot more precisely at 25 yards with an offset dot than just putting your crosshairs on the animal?

I love my older brother, but he has an offset sight on an AR-10 style rifle, which is otherwise set up for 200-800 yard combat. It’s just plain stupid. He has it there because he thinks he’s going to have to defend his home against a threat that doesn’t exist, under conditions in which he is simply going to die if it did exist.

If you think you need an offset dot on an AR, it’s because you are imagining a scenario that doesn’t really exist for civilians (or most soldiers for that matter) and/or you have too much scope on your AR.

But hey, I am not a CQB ninja, never done live fire in a shoot house, don’t practice for the scenario above, and all I really know is my own limitations.

But whatever you have, if you practice with it, I am sure it can work well for you.

Red dots (offset or top mounted) have their place, both on ARs and bolt guns. Several reasons why, but for hunting you don’t need it.

 

[Choupique]

You are being dramatic. Use the scope

Well, going on the temu mk 12 as soon as some new rings show up. I did play around with it on my .22 and having the parallax go down to 20 meters is pretty cool.

I do think ill HAVE to put back up irons on it though. Im not mature enough to be immune to tacticool marketing yet.

 

[Mike Islander]

Wonder if an offset red dot wouldn’t be a bad idea

You won't need it.

 

[43.6N]

For anybody worried about the 10x consider the following:

Do you have 10x42 binoculars?
Do you find yourself struggling to see things within 100yds with said binoculars?
The 10x SWFA will behave very similarly to these binos.

I promise, at 10x with even a just little bit of practice, you won’t struggle to get shots off quick.

And if after shooting it, you decide it’s just not your cup of tea on your main rig, it makes a phenomenal trainer optic for a 223 or 22LR.

 

[ckt3]

With how this conversation is going, I might end up with one of each… 6, 3-9, 10, 3-15