Cass Via Jr
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I am buying new glass and want a 12x. I’ve narrowed it down between these. Which ones would you pick and why?
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NL Pure is MUCH different than EL.Why would you not got x50? Same brand and model, what's the weight difference? Probably negligible, and you get more intake for low light viewing.
My guide buddy has both (NL in 10x) ….and I’ve played with them but not in a side by side comparison. He had the EL50’s first.
The 50mm EL are definitely brighter than the 42.…but also noticeably bigger and heavier. I use a 10x42SLC swaro for most of my hunting….and when I first looked through those 12x50’s it was a “ Wow” like going from a computer monitor to a big screen 4k tv type wow.
The NLs (10x I haven’t seen the 12x) were a similar wow….the best 10x42 I‘ve seen- amazing they could be that much better than my SLC.
Personally, I don’t like the heavy binos Hanging around my neck all day and I have a hard time holding the 12 steady enough without bracing them on something.
Sorry, I don’t know which I would choose. It depends on your priorities.
I have the Leica Noctivid, the Swaro NL Pures, and the Zeiss Victory all in 10x42. I prefer the Zeiss over the other 2. I'm not sold on the ergonomics of the NL. Glass is good on all 3, the edges are super super clean on the NL and better color. NL are mainly bird watching binos so as you can expect the color is better on the Swaros. The focus wheel on the NL is my least favorite of the 3, the Leica and Victory are both a lot smoother with the Victory being way on top. NL also has more stops on the eye cups which is nice. I think the Victory are going to serve you a lot better over hours of glassing as far as comfort, but NL or Victory are both top of the food chain and amazing. I have some Maven B.2 also, but not even in the same game as the 3 above. As far as 12x42 vs 12x50 it's about size and weight. Are you older? If so I would consider staying at 10x, 12x gets shaky as we get older, more power but there is a cost.
Ya then 12x50 are probably perfect for what you want. Zeiss does not make a 12x, I think the NL are likely the very best option. Congrats nice piece of equipment!I’m not to old I guess lol, I’m 33. I glass 75% off a tripod so I’m not worried about the shakiness so to speak.
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The Leica Noctivid has a longer eye relief I believe.For me the NL's don't work because Swarovski doesn't do long eye relief on anything that isn't 50 or 56 mm.
So that would be my answer.
I have owned the 12x50 El's and they are pure sex!
To me the better EL is the 10x50, as it has longer eye relief and makes for a more immersive experience.
I hope some day Swarovski makes a 50mm NL pure.
Zeiss does make a 12x50.Ya then 12x50 are probably perfect for what you want. Zeiss does not make a 12x, I think the NL are likely the very best option. Congrats nice piece of equipment!
Nope, they just 8X32, 10X32, 8X42 AND 10X42. They don't even make a 12x in the Conquest.Zeiss does make a 12x50.
Shoot, you're correct. I was thinking Leica! Thanks for setting me straight!!Nope, they just 8X32, 10X32, 8X42 AND 10X42. They don't even make a 12x in the Conquest.
here is what they are making right now
ZEISS Victory SF 10x42 | Uncompromising versatility
The ZEISS Victory SF 10x42 provides maximum detail recognition and is perfectly suited for eventful observations at long distances.www.zeiss.com
I have no clue why they don't, makes no sense at allShoot, you're correct. I was thinking Leica! Thanks for setting me straight!!
You are abslolutely correct. I love 50mm Swarovskis for the eye relief, but they are just too big and heavy.For me the NL's don't work because Swarovski doesn't do long eye relief on anything that isn't 50 or 56 mm.
So that would be my answer.
I have owned the 12x50 El's and they are pure sex!
To me the better EL is the 10x50, as it has longer eye relief and makes for a more immersive experience.
I hope some day Swarovski makes a 50mm NL pure.
I now see the title was 2 different models, I wrongly read it as the same model. Was before I had all my coffee in my system.NL Pure is MUCH different than EL.
Low light. Irving is not a concern with the NL.
If given the choice AND giving me an extra $1000 to use the ELs, I would pick the NL Pure every single time.
Those 50mm ELs feel like a brick compared to the 10x42 NLs.