Suppressor for 1st time user

[Blooze]

I know there are a million of these posts, but here's another

Due to my tinnitus spiking recently I'm either going to need to add suppressors to my firearms or go back to archery for hunting as the risk is too great even with double earpro. My main hunting rifle is a Xbolt 6.5CM that I would need to start with, and am looking into a CZ 457 and Ruger 22/45 Lite for target shooting for the wife and I (my 10/22 isn't threaded). I've only shot one suppressed gun in my life (an AR15), so I have zero experience with what to even look for and don't know anyone that does use them to talk to. I'm not sure I can get my AR15 quieted down enough to not be an issue.

Any help would be appreciated on what to look for, good models, etc... Let's set a budget of $1500 to start with. TIA.

 

[Natebonebusta]

Dead air mask for the deuce deuce and an Otter creek labs Polonium 30 for the Creedmoor. You should come in slightly under $1500 for the pair.

 

[Brix8984]

I need some more parameters. $1500 budget include stamps? Obviously sound suppression is your most important characteristic but do you have any weight/length requirements for the centerfire can? Also do you happen to be military (current or prior), le, emt?

 

[Blooze]

I need some more parameters. $1500 budget include stamps? Obviously sound suppression is your most important characteristic but do you have any weight/length requirements for the centerfire can? Also do you happen to be military (current or prior), le, emt?

Let’s say $1000-1500 budget including stamp just for the center fire. Weird to spend more on the can than the rifle, but it’s either that or sell it. I’ll worry about the .22 when I get the guns. Sound is the most important for me. The Xbolt has a 22” barrel with 5/8”-24 threads for the recoil Hawg brake it came with. I’m not military or anything else. I don’t do a lot of packing in to hunt (mile in and out at most) so overall weight isn’t an issue. Not having handled rifles with suppressors I just can’t make an educated response on length/weight/balance unfortunately.

 

[huntinfool84]

SiCo Omega DTM, $600+$205 stamp

 

[jo3hunter]

i use dead air sandman with the key brake that way with the setup i can use it on different rifles and change out by hand

 

[rust4brains]

I would recommend you identify your general location to see if there is someone who already owns several suppressors that might spend some time with you at a local range. I have done this for several folks reviewing suppressor designs and mounts. Having tinnitus as well as trigeminal neuralgia and tmj I completely get what you are saying. I don’t shoot rifles unsuppressed any longer. I’m up to 16 suppressors, like potato chips you can’t have just one. If you don’t have anyone local, Capital Armory is an excellent resource. They will patiently answer questions based on knowledge and experience. Every LGS I have been in has significant knowledge gaps & is extremely biased to the brands they carry. CA doesn’t appear to have bias because of the broad range of brands they carry. CA is based in Texas but have satellite offices in many states. I can go online and buy a can, they have all my information already so I get an email with a link, e-sign my paperwork, make a 3 minute call with them to confirm documents, then everything is filed. Once approved, there is a week wait while they notify local sheriff of transaction and 4473 waiver, then they ship the can to my doorstep in NE TN. It is so easy to buy cans now….. thus I have 16…

 

[huntsman22]

rookie.....

 

[LeftyWilbury]

get someone to thread the 10/22 and buy a rimfire can so you can shoot while you figure out where to go next. any rimfire can will do. a rimfire suppressor can end up on any threaded rimfire you add to your collection, handgun or rifle. they're less expensive, a terribly fun.

there's a WIDE array of options for centerfires. my personal experience is buying a "modular" suppressor that can fit on anything depending on what mounts/adapters you swap out just means you have a lot of adapters and mounts you don't use because you're tired of taking it apart when you want to move it to something new. keep it simple. any 30 cal can with a HUB base would be a good start.

your 6.5CM and other centerfire rifles are going to be threaded 5/8-24. the AR15 will be threaded 1/2-28. a simple adapter can be stuck on the AR if you end up with a dedicated direct thread suppressor that's 5/8-24. but eventually you'll want a dedicated AR can that's "flow through" to limit gases being thrown back in your face. and if you want to take a suppressor hunting, you'll want a dedicated titanium model because they're lighter.

and then suddenly you own five suppressors....which isn't a bad thing. it's an investment in your hearing future.

if you have a local gun store that does a good job with suppressors i would suggest visiting them and seeing what's in stock and talking to them about your needs. hopefully they're capable of giving good advice. any major brand suppressor will serve you fine. and with (individual) stamps getting approved in 36-48 hours these days, it often comes down to what's in stock at the time you're ready to buy.

good luck. and go buy a rimfire can already.

 

[tacks]

I bought off of Silencer Central no problems yet but..... If I could do a redo I would go Capitol Armory. I do not like being sold and SC is the only seller of the Banish line so the person I dealt with pushed them.

 

[Blooze]

Thank you for all the replies so far.

get someone to thread the 10/22 and buy a rimfire can so you can shoot while you figure out where to go next. any rimfire can will do. a rimfire suppressor can end up on any threaded rimfire you add to your collection, handgun or rifle. they're less expensive, a terribly fun.

Thanks for the advice!

I'll have to look around. I am pretty much out in the the middle of nowhere, so I'll look at some of the larger towns within 100 miles and see if there are any recommended smiths.

I mainly use the 6.5CM for deer hunting in December and target shooting a bit here and there to keep up with it. So I've got a little time to decide. Not too worried about the AR, because I actually very seldom shoot it at all.

 

[wesfromky]

For a low volume hunting can, you probably want something Ti and like 7" long. Otter creek, Diligent defense, TBAC, Dead Air, etc. there are a bunch of options in that space. Don't get to hung up with trying to decide between them, just order whatever is in stock at a decent price. I have used Silencer Shop for all 8 of mine and it has been fine.

 

[ColPenguin]

I'll have to look around. I am pretty much out in the the middle of nowhere, so I'll look at some of the larger towns within 100 miles and see if there are any recommended smiths.

For what it costs to send off and have a barrel threaded. You could just buy a threaded 10/22 barrel from somewhere like Brownells and swap it yourself.

 

[E.Shell]

For a low volume hunting can, you probably want something Ti and like 7" long. Otter creek, Diligent defense, TBAC, Dead Air, etc. there are a bunch of options in that space. Don't get to hung up with trying to decide between them, just order whatever is in stock at a decent price. I have used Silencer Shop for all 8 of mine and it has been fine.

I think this is very good advice, especially the "in stock" part.

I've bought my most recent suppressors through SilencerShop too. The process is as painless as it gets and they've been great to deal with.

My last transfer was through SS and it took the ATF 71 hours to approve it. I just did one with paper forms a few weeks ago and I had forgotten how tedious it is, plus it took 6 weeks to be approved, which is still considered relatively fast for paper.

If you wish to complicate things further, with the goal of analysis paralysis, just evaluate all of the suppressors on the market, choose the very best one and then try to find it in stock...:
https://thunderbeastarms.com/sound/summit2024/

For what it costs to send off and have a barrel threaded. You could just buy a threaded 10/22 barrel from somewhere like Brownells and swap it yourself.

QFT, not to mention the lead time/delay.

 

[juju]

Your requirements aren't extreme. The easiest path may be to search for gun suppressor manufacturers on Google maps. There are a surprising number of them you won't see on the popular sellers' sites. You may be able to just go to one and try it there.

The cost of threading can be considered a significant discount on a new barrel or rifle. It was cheap, but now with the increased popularity of suppressors it's become pretty silly.

 

[zdc1775]

I will second the recommendation to the Dead Air Mask. I shot several different 22 suppressors that friends have before deciding on that one myself recently, though the Otter Creek Titanium was my other choice (honestly couldn't actually decide between them and it quite literally came down to which one was in stock when I went to buy). Actually just got mine in on Monday and have only put about 150 rounds through it in the last two days but I don't regret it, but I also know that I'll probably buy a OCL Titanium in a few months and will likely like it just as much.

For the hunting rifle, if I was just starting out with suppressors again I would probably get an AB A-10 for my first, but realistically there are very few bad choices on the market. Yes, some have a better tone or rate slightly lower on a decibel meter or weigh less or are built for heavier duty firing schedules but almost all of them perform very well. I do recommend getting one that is 30 caliber vs one that is specifically for the 6.5 as I can almost guarantee you will very quickly decide you don't want to shoot unsuppressed anymore and 30 cal gives you more flexibility and that whatever you buy is HUB compatible (that's a 1.375x24 thread pattern for various mounts)

For the 10/22, I would just buy a threaded barrel for it rather than having it threaded personally, and depending on which you get buying a new one might even be cheaper than paying for the threading. You can even buy a Ruger factory barrel if you want, though I would use this as a chance to upgrade it myself.

 

[jimh406]

I think any brand will work. I have preference for 30 cal suppressors. I don't think a brand makes much difference, but if you buy more than one, do spend some time choosing your processor. I'm invested in Silencer Central which makes additional purchases pretty easy. From what I've read, most warranties are pretty good for all brands/processors.

 

[GoatPackr]

Whisper Pickle