Suppressor for 16.5" 308

[Lawnboi]

Not looking to argue, but wondering what folks like so much about the TBAC cans. They seem rather middle of the road in everything except diameter and they are almost $200 more expensive than the next can I would consider. It’s approximately the same length and weight as an AB Raptor 10 without the reflex and not as quiet. And, the Raptor can fit the reflex if you want that option. Is there something I am missing about TBAC?


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Most of the cans being talked about now really were not out when the ultra 7 was. It was one of few fully titanium suppressors of its time.

Tbac is a great company. They don’t deserve the shit they get just because it’s thunderbeast. They support shooting sports at a lot of levels, and provide a lot of free product. When you call or email they answer you from Wyoming. They build their own stuff and have the ability to repair and replace stuff in house. It’s a know reliable suppressor that hasn’t been blowing up, causing accuracy issues or has questionable limitations; they are clearly stated and available. They are attempting to fairly standardize some sound data and post many results with their suppressors not being on top.

I would ask you why not an ultra 7? Looking at the numbers and weights what’s really that much better with all these other suppressors that are competing against (now the gen2) 5+ year design. Hyperion K, OG, nomad ti, scythe, raptor 8…. What are these suppressors really doing that the U7 hasn’t been doing?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Most of the cans being talked about now really were not out when the ultra 7 was. It was one of few fully titanium suppressors of its time.

Tbac is a great company. They don’t deserve the shit they get just because it’s thunderbeast. They support shooting sports at a lot of levels, and provide a lot of free product. When you call or email they answer you from Wyoming. They build their own stuff and have the ability to repair and replace stuff in house. It’s a know reliable suppressor that hasn’t been blowing up, causing accuracy issues or has questionable limitations; they are clearly stated and available. They are attempting to fairly standardize some sound data and post many results with their suppressors not being on top.

I would ask you why not an ultra 7? Looking at the numbers and weights what’s really that much better with all these other suppressors that are competing against (now the gen2) 5+ year design. Hyperion K, OG, nomad ti, scythe, raptor 8…. What are these suppressors really doing that the U7 hasn’t been doing?

Thank you. I wasn’t aware that TBAC got any shit for any reason. I have nothing against them and appreciate them hosting the summit. I posted a sincere request for information because I’ve only been in the suppressor game for about a year and I am constantly looking for information about these companies, without getting sucked into YouTube algorithms and paid influencers. I’ve been shooting my entire life, but basically living under a rock for the last 20 years. I spend so much time on RokSlide out of a genuine desire to learn and satisfy my curiosity.


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[thinhorn_AK]

Thank you. I wasn’t aware that TBAC got any shit for any reason. I have nothing against them and appreciate them hosting the summit. I posted a sincere request for information because I’ve only been in the suppressor game for about a year and I am constantly looking for information about these companies, without getting sucked into YouTube algorithms and paid influencers. I’ve been shooting my entire life, but basically living under a rock for the last 20 years. I spend so much time on RokSlide out of a genuine desire to learn and satisfy my curiosity.


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The TBAC fanboys can be a lot like kifaru fanboys. It’s like on the Kifaru Facebook page, Aron Snyder would say some super rude condescending shit to somebody for no reason and he’d get like 300 “likes” for it.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

I cannot find a polo 30. I wanted one before I got the AB.

Silencer Shop for $532
Gunbroker for $499
Stonebridge GW for $532

Those were first 3 in a quick Google search.

For $60 more, the Anthem S2 is just a hair longer and weighs the same but has far superior suppression according to Pew Science.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

Most of the cans being talked about now really were not out when the ultra 7 was. It was one of few fully titanium suppressors of its time.

Tbac is a great company. They don’t deserve the shit they get just because it’s thunderbeast. They support shooting sports at a lot of levels, and provide a lot of free product. When you call or email they answer you from Wyoming. They build their own stuff and have the ability to repair and replace stuff in house. It’s a know reliable suppressor that hasn’t been blowing up, causing accuracy issues or has questionable limitations; they are clearly stated and available. They are attempting to fairly standardize some sound data and post many results with their suppressors not being on top.

I would ask you why not an ultra 7? Looking at the numbers and weights what’s really that much better with all these other suppressors that are competing against (now the gen2) 5+ year design. Hyperion K, OG, nomad ti, scythe, raptor 8…. What are these suppressors really doing that the U7 hasn’t been doing?

For me, it's all about the cost vs. benefit. I could almost get 2 Anthem S2 suppressors with better performance for the price of one Ultra 7 or Ultra 9. Pew doesn't have rankings for the Ultra 7, but the Anthesm S2 at 7.5" with direct mount is nearly as quiety as the Ultra 9 (45 vs. 46 on their ranking scale).

https://pewscience.com/rankings

Click on the columns to sort however you want, but make sure you're looking at the .308 supersonic rankings unless shooting 556 or 300blk.

 

[Lawnboi]

For me, it's all about the cost vs. benefit. I could almost get 2 Anthem S2 suppressors with better performance for the price of one Ultra 7 or Ultra 9. Pew doesn't have rankings for the Ultra 7, but the Anthesm S2 at 7.5" with direct mount is nearly as quiety as the Ultra 9 (45 vs. 46 on their ranking scale).

https://pewscience.com/rankings

Click on the columns to sort however you want, but make sure you're looking at the .308 supersonic rankings unless shooting 556 or 300blk.

You can get plenty of cheaper suppressors. I see that suppressor as a totally different tool than a lightweight titanium suppressor. We could discuss the difference or preference of a nearly one pound suppressor to a 10 ounce suppressor quite a bit. There’s a few other upsides to titanium which I prefer as well.

Pew science is a gambit imo. They don’t test thunderbeast because they won’t pay him from my understanding.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

You can get plenty of cheaper suppressors. I see that suppressor as a totally different tool than a lightweight titanium suppressor. We could discuss the difference or preference of a nearly one pound suppressor to a 10 ounce suppressor quite a bit. There’s a few other upsides to titanium which I prefer as well.

Pew science is a gambit imo. They don’t test thunderbeast because they won’t pay him from my understanding.

Agree on weight savings, and the Enticer S-Ti DTM is also half the cost of an Ultra 7, and although slightly louder than the Anthem S2, this titanium can only weighs 9.3 oz. It's $640 after shipping.

Pew may be not be perfect, but it at least provides a standard measurement system for consumers to use for comparisons. The Ultra 9 has been tested, so why not the Ultra 7? Manufacturers that don't publish any data or want to use their own "standard" leave consumers having to guess or "trust" them that their product is as good or better. With as much competition as there is in the suppressor game, it doesn't make sense not to publish your data, even if it costs some money. I'm not going to buy a car, truck, or anything else if there is no way to compare it to the competition.

 

[wind gypsy]

I would ask you why not an ultra 7? Looking at the numbers and weights what’s really that much better with all these other suppressors that are competing against (now the gen2) 5+ year design. Hyperion K, OG, nomad ti, scythe, raptor 8…. What are these suppressors really doing that the U7 hasn’t been doing?

Quieter, lighter, shorter, dont require use of a 2 ounce muzzle device, and allow use of end cap brakes when that is desired. Nomad Ti XC measured nearly 3.6 dBA quieter at the ear than the ultra 7, is shorter, a little lighter, and I can throw a recoilx on it for range/match shooting.

That said, there is a surety about TBAC that is not matched by the others.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Quieter, lighter, shorter, dont require use of a 2 ounce muzzle device, and allow use of end cap brakes when that is desired. Nomad Ti XC measured nearly 3.6 dBA quieter at the ear than the ultra 7, is shorter, a little lighter, and I can throw a recoilx on it for range/match shooting.

That said, there is a surety about TBAC that is not matched by the others.

The ultra 7 is like a Glock 19 or a 30-06, is the best thing available? Not really but it’s never a bad choice.

Salmon River solutions does make a muzzle attachment device which skips the TBAC cb brake thing and saves a few ounces. I do like the simplicity and form factor of the ultra 7, I’ve had mine for a few years and have no complaints about it. I also have that nomad ti xc and it seems pretty good so far. The rearden end cap made it slight shorter and an ounce lighter.

 

[Lawnboi]

Agree on weight savings, and the Enticer S-Ti DTM is also half the cost of an Ultra 7, and although slightly louder than the Anthem S2, this titanium can only weighs 9.3 oz. It's $640 after shipping.

Pew may be not be perfect, but it at least provides a standard measurement system for consumers to use for comparisons. The Ultra 9 has been tested, so why not the Ultra 7? Manufacturers that don't publish any data or want to use their own "standard" leave consumers having to guess or "trust" them that their product is as good or better. With as much competition as there is in the suppressor game, it doesn't make sense not to publish your data, even if it costs some money. I'm not going to buy a car, truck, or anything else if there is no way to compare it to the competition.

I didn’t say Tbac was the only ti suppressor in town either. Just one of the longest standing. Sure you can buy a cheaper titanium product, but then look at the issues people have had with them. There is something to be said about buying a product from a company with a record like Tbac. But yes they are expensive, and I understand why someone concerned with price, or adaptability wouldn’t go with them.


I can’t speak for Tbac re pew science but I’d assume because they don’t want to pay for a process that isn’t spelled out and provable. There’s a reason UM is testing the way they do, and showing it, same could be said for the sound summit.

The advertising is getting you. It’s a proprietary pay to play field at pew science. I can appreciate what he is trying to do but unless more manufacturers buy in it’s about as useful as me going to the range and listening to a few suppressors. Tbac is shooting their suppressors right next to their competitors on the same rifles, with the same ammo, in the same environment and publishing actual data for you to reference. You are referencing data on them from a gen 1 ultra 9, they began producing that suppressor in 2015. That can is 10 year old technology and still competitive in a huge field now a days.

 

[Lawnboi]

Quieter, lighter, shorter, dont require use of a 2 ounce muzzle device, and allow use of end cap brakes when that is desired. Nomad Ti XC measured nearly 3.6 dBA quieter at the ear than the ultra 7, is shorter, a little lighter, and I can throw a recoilx on it for range/match shooting.

That said, there is a surety about TBAC that is not matched by the others.

Great option to have, as is the bigger one. I’d have a hard time choosing if I was shopping between the two right now. The choice was much easier back then. If the versatility isn’t something that’s wanted, I’d argue the U7 is still a competitive product. And as you alluded from a company that dosnt have a history of burning its customers.

I was simply laying out why Tbac is a good option, as asked above. We are in a good time. The tech and market is getting very competitive.