Suppressor considerations

[Kenny Hart]

Any feedback yet on the Magnus-S-RR? I have my eye on it and the K. What made you go with it instead of full length or the K?

Don't get a K silencer unless your use case includes still wearing full hearing protection for shooting, otherwise you're going to be very disappointed.

The K is not hearing safe on 5.56, and the K-RR isn't hearing safe on anything. The RR is the same weight/length as the S, so most are going to gravitate to much better suppression and tone.

The full sized can is nice, but for something like hunting, most people don't view the moderate increase in performance as worth having 9" silencer on the end of their barrel. I can personally tell you that it sucks, having gone the "full sized, max suppression" route for my first can.

The 7" is the nice happy medium that is hearing safe for a limited number of shots, and still a reasonable size.

 

[jbwright]

Don't get a K silencer unless your use case includes still wearing full hearing protection for shooting, otherwise you're going to be very disappointed.

The K is not hearing safe on 5.56, and the K-RR isn't hearing safe on anything. The RR is the same weight/length as the S, so most are going to gravitate to much better suppression and tone.

The full sized can is nice, but for something like hunting, most people don't view the moderate increase in performance as worth having 9" silencer on the end of their barrel. I can personally tell you that it sucks, having gone the "full sized, max suppression" route for my first can.

The 7" is the nice happy medium that is hearing safe for a limited number of shots, and still a reasonable size.

Thanks for the info. Use case is going to be mostly on a 30cal, and specifically eyeing it for a 300wsm build (running w/a 20" Proof CF barrel, so just need to figure out the CB/SR mount deal).

Appreciate the feedback on sound reduction - I'm looking for a good balance of noise reduction and recoil reduction on the 300wsm. It seems like the S-RR would be a good go between. Looks like 8.4"-9.1" and 14-16.5oz depending on CB/SR mount

 

[Lawnboi]

Thanks for the info. Use case is going to be mostly on a 30cal, and specifically eyeing it for a 300wsm build (running w/a 20" Proof CF barrel, so just need to figure out the CB/SR mount deal).

Appreciate the feedback on sound reduction - I'm looking for a good balance of noise reduction and recoil reduction on the 300wsm. It seems like the S-RR would be a good go between. Looks like 8.4"-9.1" and 14-16.5oz depending on CB/SR mount

You don’t want SR for a hunting gun. Un needed weight and length. Iv had zero issues with CB, even for PRS 100+ round days.

I have a full size standard and a KRR. I’d like a full size RR specifically for magnum use. Looks like the S RR teeters on the edge of hearing safe. The KRR is loud, still quieter than bare muzzle. I bought it mainly as a game gun suppressor. Been doing quite a bit of shooting with it on the end of a 3006 and it’s making me want a full size to use on a big 30 cal.

If the guns not built yet I would spend some time thinking about balance around a larger suppressor.

The big suppressors definitely cut a little more recoil, but my Magnus K RR is alone level of reduction to my Magnus on my 3006.

 

[Packmansion]

I have yet to shoot a can with a brake. To me it does seem like 2 steps forward one step back. I have heard the scythe strikes a good balance. The challenge with a lot of this stuff is that db measurement vs how it sounds can be misleading. I'm very happy with my cans and no brake paired with light recoiling cartridges. It would be interesting to see a comparison of suppressors that include DB and recoil reduction/muzzle rise. I have a feeling you would find weight of supressor being the main contributor to recoil reduction. Adding a pound of weight to a rifle can do a lot for shoot ability especially at the end of the muzzle where it has good leverage to reduce muzzle rise. I am starting to get burnt out on all of this technology and find myself much happier just enjoying what I have and not worrying too much about these incremental gains. I'm not an olypian but it's easy to get sucked into the latest greatest cutting edge. Trying to spend more money on powder and bullets and less on gear.

 

[ACHILLES]

Not sure where I am going with this thread, more just conversation than anything. I have noticed when we discuss different suppressors on here that our main considerations are length, weight, and sound suppression but never really talk about recoil impulse. A large amount of firearm talk on here is related to switching to smaller cartridges for the recoil/shootability aspect.

How come there is not more talk about recoil reduction/impulse in a suppressor? I have a handful of suppressors myself, but always found myself gravitating towards my omega 30 with the end brake because it is so nice to shoot with that brake on the end. Recently got the Scythe TI and have been experimenting with the omega brake on it (pic for attention attached). I think it has become my new favorite. Also have one of the new magnus RR's coming with the brake on the end that I am excited to compare.

I think for hunters, wouldn't it make sense to give up a little bit of sound suppression for more recoil reduction? I mean if a braked suppressor takes the recoil down a notch compared to a non-braked suppressor while still remaining ear safe for a few shots does that open up the scenario where you could get away with a bigger cartridge than you maybe could before? Seems like a win-win.

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I think the braked designs would be worth the extra Db’s and crack in front of the can on the magnums. Might not be worth it on the smaller cartridges to some. But to actually suppress a magnum well you need a large can 8-9”. Add a brake to that and it gets even longer and heavier. I’d like to see a Ti, 1.6-1.8 diameter over the barrel can 8-9” with brake, only adding 4-5” of length past the barrel. My 338 ultra is very quiet compared to other large cans but at 11.5” it will make an 18” hunting rifle noticeably front heavy.
Im sure when UM releases their OTB can other companies will jump in and design their own versions also giving multiple options. Just like when word came out on the Rokstock, all the sudden mc McMillan had their version too. It would be awesome to see braked otb cans. Of course 2 models one for smaller cartridges and a larger one for magnums.