Stove help...

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Okay so I'm starting to put together my sleep/shelter system for next year. I'm first purchase will be a stove and now I need to decided which one.. Cylinder or box... from what I can tell the cylinder is obviously lighter than the box but it seems that the box is a little more rugged. I'm looking at getting either a Kifaru Smith, Liteoutdoors-titanium-stove or the Seek Outside box stove. One of the things I also plan on using this stove for is some outings with my son during his upcoming years in the Cub Scouts. I'm just looking for some input from you guys that do run one.

P. S. The stove will be used with a tipi.
 
I have a 16" Ed T stove and it works very well
Tim
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I don't think you are allowed to use any kind of a stove inside a shelter on a Boy Scout outing
 
Thanks for the heads up... I'll look into that. Do you do any kind of cooking on your stove or is it just for warmth?
 
I cook on it occasionally with any of them there is a learning curve. As an example if you want allot of heat fast to cook you load the stove wit wood about 1" dia..Use lrger stuff mixed with smaller for heat inside the shelter
 
The hard and fast rule that is never broken is no open flames in a tent, which means candles etc..

We use a wood stove in the leader tent (Boy Scouts), it's there as a warming hut if the boys get cold. They are not allowed to mess with it and no wood stoves are allowed in their tents.
 
I have a HPG Shepherd stove with my 8-man tipi. The stove is pretty rugged and has one of the largest capacities (volume), which helps a lot when its 8F and blowing. I liked the design of it and it works well, but its heavy.

The main difference I thought about when choosing between an cylinder & a box stove basically came down to cooking on it. If I'm already bringing a 10 lb tipi and a 5 lb stove/pipe out to a location (and in the Adirondacks, I'm using a canoe so weight doesn't matter nearly as much) then I'm also bringing actual food to cook and not just rehydrating a MH. The flat surface of a box stove allows you use cook efficiently and use more than one pot. If you're backpacking and just rehydrating MH meals (or similar) and want the stove to dry clothes and take the chill off before getting in/out of the sleeping bag, I'd recommend a cylinder and a jetboil/pocket rocket.
 
Darren Best said:
The hard and fast rule that is never broken is no open flames in a tent, which means candles etc..

We use a wood stove in the leader tent (Boy Scouts), it's there as a warming hut if the boys get cold. They are not allowed to mess with it and no wood stoves are allowed in their tents.
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Thanks! My Son needs to have a camping trip in order to receive one of his belt loops. Now the trip doesn't necessarily have to be with the pack. It can be done with just him and I or a family outing or something like that. But I figured since I'm working on getting a stove and tipi it would be a good time for him and I to get out and do some winter or spring camping with a heat source. Plus I want it to be comfortable for him being that he is only seven. Hopefully he will enjoy it to where he's wanting to go all the time.
Thanks for the info... 👍👍
 
Fly Rodder said:
I have a HPG Shepherd stove with my 8-man tipi. The stove is pretty rugged and has one of the largest capacities (volume), which helps a lot when its 8F and blowing. I liked the design of it and it works well, but its heavy.

The main difference I thought about when choosing between an cylinder & a box stove basically came down to cooking on it. If I'm already bringing a 10 lb tipi and a 5 lb stove/pipe out to a location (and in the Adirondacks, I'm using a canoe so weight doesn't matter nearly as much) then I'm also bringing actual food to cook and not just rehydrating a MH. The flat surface of a box stove allows you use cook efficiently and use more than one pot. If you're backpacking and just rehydrating MH meals (or similar) and want the stove to dry clothes and take the chill off before getting in/out of the sleeping bag, I'd recommend a cylinder and a jetboil/pocket rocket.
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Thanks... Gotta really think this one out...
 
I have the small Ti Goat WiFi stove, but I think in hindsight I wish I would have went with the cylinder stove. I have no issues with the performance of build of the wi-fi, but my deciding factor with the box stove was that it would boil water or cook things easier. While that seems like a good idea, I'll probably never use the wood stove for that. Could have got a slightly longer stove, for bigger logs, and less weight with the cylinder stove.
 
Tim in Wa. said:
I cook on it occasionally with any of them there is a learning curve. As an example if you want allot of heat fast to cook you load the stove wit wood about 1" dia..Use lrger stuff mixed with smaller for heat inside the shelter
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So is it possible to overheat one? Warping?
 
I have a TI Goat large WiFi that I use with a Kifaru Sawtooth. It works very well for warmth and cooking. I think it is well engineered and it performs.
 
I'm running the large WiFi in my Sawtooth and I'm super happy with it. I've also started boiling water on it in the morning for coffee. It's big enough that I get some decent burn time without tending it. No , you're not going to get the stove too hot for the stove but I did get it to 92* inside of my sawtooth while it was blowing and in the mid twenties outside. I had to open the door for a minute :) ! It's a great problem to have on a cold and miserable day.
 
I picked up a smith 18" this year and couldn't be any happier. Fits good sized logs, weighs nothing and packs pretty small. I have no intention to try to cook on the thing so its the perfect choice for me.
 
I prefer a box stove over a cylinder stove just simply for the ease of cooking. It's a lot easier to set a pot on a flat surface rather than a round one. I'm sure you'll get different opinions, this is just mine. I've had mine red hot for extended periods of time on cold nights, the stove has distorted slightly but still operates fine. I run an 8' pipe to get the sparks good and high to avoid burning holes in my shelter. So far it has worked.

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I like my seek outside box stove. It will burn for a while with descent fuels but it is a backpacking stove so don't expect all night. I have had coals from oak still hot the next morning though. The box is very sturdy but I honestly don't think you will have issues of sturdiness with any of the stoves you mentioned. I went with the box for the same reason most do and that is cooking.
 
I have an 18" lite outdoors stove. Works great. No real cold weather yet, but ran it one night elk hunting this year. It about ran us out of the tent.
 
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