Statins

The whole history of the “rat science” behind the modern push for statin drugs is extremely shaky…and more a lesson in successful sales of pharmaceutical drugs than saving any lives. “Normal” levels of cholesterol have been lowered over the years to bring new patients into the statin business.
You are dead wrong.

 
I agree that you should absolutely listen to your Dr., however from what I have been told by my new Dr. there is an alternative to Statins.
I told my personal reaction to them on here for informational purposes only, not to stop you but to give you an insight on what could possibly happen.
 
You are dead wrong.

Actually, no I’m alive and very healthy lol. Many who have taken statins are now dead wrong however. The “science” behind statin research reads like a bad horror story…studies on rats not replicated in dogs, serious side effects shutting down studies, etc. There is no proof statins have saved anyone…but they have made a lot of people rich.
 
Statins get an undeserved bad rap. Most of the listed side effects are questionable (you see no statistical difference in placebo controlled trials for things like liver damage, muscle aches and pains, Etc).

So, the real things that are well verified.
-About 1 out of 10 people with prediabetes will progress to full blown diabetes sooner if placed on a statin. However, so long as diabetes is managed, people who continue to take the statin will live longer and be healthier on everage than those who stop it. Note, this is people with prediabetes, if you have that, you should be cleaning up your diet and exercising as otherwise it will progress to diabetes.
-1 in 100,000 people will have a trues muscular fibrosis response, this is rare, but can happen. There are ways to reduce the risk.

Statins are not associated with dementia and lowering cholesterol actually reduces the risk of dementia. However, for some people they do cause memory issues. These issues resolved with stopping the statin, and a statin vacation (1-6 weeks al of not taking it) will provide a clear answer. One statin will cause this issue for someone, while a different one does not. So, just because one causes an issue doesn't mean a different one will.

Statins have a very strong nocebo effect. This is basically the evil twin of the placebo effect. There are ways to manage this, primary being giving to person taking the statin some control over dosing.

Statins are about risk reduction, no one has a crystal ball, but you are more likely to live longer and be healthier if you take one, then if you don't. This is supported be multiple large, long term, data sets in humans (one of the benefits of old meds that have been around for over 35 years, along with being cheap). It really sucks if you turn out to have a bad side effect, but not being able to predict the future, all a health care provider can do is recommended the lowest risk option.

Now, on balance, statins are pretty safe with a very small risk of significant adverse effects. Probably safer than taking ibuprofen (which can cause kidney failure, heart attacks, life threatening bleeding, and all your skin to fall off and you basically die from the equivalent of 3rd degree burns which is called SJS). Additionally, unlike ibuprofen, statins have a pretty significant benefit profile.

There was a time when there was concern that lowering cholesterol too much could cause issues, as science has proven this to be false and in large human datasets shown that further reduction in cholesterol reduces risk further, the case for more aggressive treatment has become stronger. The benefits of lower cholesterol shows up over years of lowering. Just like you can't start walking at 60 and expect the health benefits of a life long athlete.

The rather ill informed idea of revenue generation always gets brought up, so lets address that.

The way to make money is to tell people not to take them. If I Rx a statin to someone for 10 years, and assume they only need an annual visit for a refill, our office brings in about $3500 and you can assume drug companies make about $800 over that 10 years. Assuming current guidelines are used to guide starting treatment, I need to treat 10 people to prevent one heart attack in that 10 years. So, $35,000 + 8,000, for $43,000 in 10 years.

Compare that to the best case without prescribing any statins, the person develops angina, I see them in the office, get them a stress test and echo, then send them for a heart cath and they get a stent, my employer would net about $18,000 more when all is said and done as opposed to treating 10 people with statins. But, in the worst case, we are talking hundreds of thousands in addition revenue for the medical industry that is lost by preventing a single heart attack.

Some of the older intervention cardiologists remember 20+ years ago having partners that didn't believe in prescribing statins, those guys had a steady rotation of the same people getting stents every few years. Great business model, flat out shit way to treat people though.

I do find it amusing how people actually drive up medical expenses by avoiding good preventative care in the name of not enriching big pharma.
 
Have you had a coronary calcium score lately?

To understand a coronary artery calcium score and how to use it, we first must take a step back and discuss physiology (a little simplified). Plaque starts as an irritation in the artery lining, this attracts some cholesterol to it, then, based on simple chemistry (Le Châtelier's principle) more cholesterol is attracted to this at a rate determined largely by the concentration in the blood (this is the same reason poring grease down your drain tends to lead to a clog in one spot and not evenly distribute through the entire pipe). This leads to a soft, faty plaque that is unstable, which the body doesn't like. Over time osteoblasts (cells that build bone) migrate to these plaques and lay calcium down to form a stable cap.

A CAC score detects the calcium, not the plaque. A young person can have a CAC of zero and yest have severe multi vessel disease that needs a bypass. Some people will rapidly build plaques that need intervention but are not calcified.

On the other hand, endurance athletes tend to have high levels of coronary calcification, but no significant plaque burden. Statins also stabilize plaques and long term statin use results in elevated CAC scores, but lower total plaque burden and lower risk of heart attacks and strokes.

So, a CAC is not a diagnostic test, rather for someone who is borderline on if they need a statin or not, it provides additional information. If your risk factors are such that a statin is clearly recommended, a CAC of zero doesn't mean you don't need a statin. You would need a heart cath or a coronary CT angiogram to rule out coronary disease, but even if an angio is clean, you are on shaky ground using that to recommend discontinuation of a statin in a high risk individual.
 
Actually, no I’m alive and very healthy lol. Many who have taken statins are now dead wrong however. The “science” behind statin research reads like a bad horror story…studies on rats not replicated in dogs, serious side effects shutting down studies, etc. There is no proof statins have saved anyone…but they have made a lot of people rich.
Again. Dead wrong.
 
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