Sonora monster mule deer

[ridgerunnerrron]

There have been many monster Desert mule deer shot in Sonora.
FYI- I have first hand knowledge from a good friend who saw some behind the actual facts and scenes of what is actually happening on SOME places.
The deer are being farmed and raised to grow big, Then sold and released at a number of outfits. Most of the hunters are clueless or could care less as long as they shoot a great buck.
The mighty dollar wins again. Sad.

 

[Coveyleader]

Yeap, sick! Same happens in Africa with lions etc.

I never knew, but these days everything Mexico related seems to good to be true. They’re doing the same with Bighorn Sheep.

 

[Cornhusker]

I'm not sure this isn't really old news as it's been going on for awhile. Some is correct I've hunted Sonora and shot a couple of pretty good deer. I'm sure mine weren't farmed and they weren't high fenced.

 

[UpNorth89]

I'm not sure this isn't really old news as it's been going on for awhile. Some is correct I've hunted Sonora and shot a couple of pretty good deer. I'm sure mine weren't farmed and they weren't high fenced.

I'm genuinely curious and not being argumentative. How do you know for sure?

 

[Cornhusker]

A fair question UpNorth
The areas I hunted in struggled with locals coming onto the ranch and poaching as roads ran through the ranch. Even out in the Sonora desert a lot of people are moving around on the trails. Sometimes doing illegal things sometimes doing things that poor people do to survive. As far as high fenced we drove outside the ranch as I drove down both times and I did see high fences but they were 20 miles or so away.

Both outfitters I was with were not organized or financed well enough to afford the high fencing or the raising of the deer. The ranches in both cases were owned by Americans and leased by Mexican outfitters and were cattle ranchers that had all they could handle just keeping cowboys working the ranches and keeping the cattle from dying because of poor care and water issues.

 

[UpNorth89]

A fair question UpNorth
The areas I hunted in struggled with locals coming onto the ranch and poaching as roads ran through the ranch. Even out in the Sonora desert a lot of people are moving around on the trails. Sometimes doing illegal things sometimes doing things that poor people do to survive. As far as high fenced we drove outside the ranch as I drove down both times and I did see high fences but they were 20 miles or so away.

Both outfitters I was with were not organized or financed well enough to afford the high fencing or the raising of the deer. The ranches in both cases were owned by Americans and leased by Mexican outfitters and were cattle ranchers that had all they could handle just keeping cowboys working the ranches and keeping the cattle from dying because of poor care and water issues.

Good to know. Thank you.

 

[dchum]

Uh.. DUH!

Couse deer are also captured in helicopters and put into breeding pens. 2 stud bucks and 30 does for example in 3 acres. The does get bred and then all released back out for genetic “development” Of course Mexico big horn sheep are often pen raised and released on the hill side few days before the gringos arrival.
Not to be confused with the raised big horns that are then used to creat free range herds and re populate diminished areas. That has been a great success story in Mexico.

The good operations that have breeding operations will be upfront like “el chaparral” They have their high fence with selected genetics and then offer free range hunt on surrounding. They don’t pretend it’s all the same. Some people just don’t care and want the bigger buck!

It’s crucial to have an outfitter you trust and to understand the background of the operations and not be a stupid Yankee.

There are still cattle ranches with in tainted operation that just have deer as they have always been.