SO LBO footprint?

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How big is this thing? Could you describe the footprint for me?

With the big opening it seems like half of it would get wet it there was any wind with the rain. I want to love this thing but is it what im looking for in rainy western wa? I dont want to run the vest all the time just for rain. My other consideration is a paratarp. 1 guy bivy setup. Anything more is icing on the cake.
 

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Foot print without the vestibule is a 3 sided pyramid and is about 43 sq ft. Without the vestibule it won't offer much rain protection. The paratarp without the annex will offer more rain protection than the LBO but you would need either the vestibule on the LBO or the annex on the Paratarp for full protection.

It's no secret here that I am a huge Seek Outside fan but if my only option were the LBO or the Paratarp I would probably go with the Paratarp for the footprint. If I were using it in a rain belt region I definitely would add the annex - If I were given other options I would jump on the Cimmaron or the Ultamid 2 for a solo shelter. . . In that order . . .
 

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I own both and use a paratarp with annex for a year and i can say than i prefer the LBO,2 shelters youll have rain with wind if you dont have annex or vestibule.The LBO feel bigger VS the Para...LBO is more large and Para feel more longer.I prefer the LBO for stove option too,the para was a pain to enter with a hot stove and i am pretty small myself.LBo all the way IMO.
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Dang! I really wanted the lbo to work! Thanks guys.

Well now that thats taken care of is there anything l should consider besides the paratarp? I already have a 12' simply light winter haven as my basecamp shelter which is very similar to a supertarp. Looking for somthing smaller and faster. But its gotta be good in rain!
 

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Dang! I really wanted the lbo to work! Thanks guys.

Well now that thats taken care of is there anything l should consider besides the paratarp? I already have a 12' simply light winter haven as my basecamp shelter which is very similar to a supertarp. Looking for somthing smaller and faster. But its gotta be good in rain!

Hyperlite Ultamid 2 - About 18 to 20 ounces, 4 sided tipi that's around 60 sq ft and bomber in most any weather.
 
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Hey thanks I'll check those out ! That's kind of why I asked, because I'm sure there's a hundred companies I don't even know about.

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HOLY CRAP THATS EXPENSIVE!

Yes they are. . . I think you should really consider the Seek Outside Silvertip as a good compromise for size, weather, weight and cost. It's a polygon tipi that weighs about 20 ounces. I think it comes in around $300.00 . . . Personally I'm spending a lot of solo time in my Redcliff but I would go for the Cimarron if I was still young.
 

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Yes they are. . . I think you should really consider the Seek Outside Silvertip as a good compromise for size, weather, weight and cost. It's a polygon tipi that weighs about 20 ounces. I think it comes in around $300.00 . . . Personally I'm spending a lot of solo time in my Redcliff but I would go for the Cimarron if I was still young.


i agree with Akicita,i totally forgot the Silvertip.I use the bt2(old model of the silvertip) for few months and it is lightweight,quick set-up and full protection if raining.
 

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Are you going to run a stove ? If not maybe look at a Tarp tent? My Notch with nest and full bath tub floor is pretty light weight and super easy set up. I've also owned a paratarp but if not going to need a stove i like the notch

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No stove for me. Ill look at the tarp tents and silvertip.

I never really considered the tipis. When l started this l was just thinking of a tarp over a bivy, but then theres light weight tarp shelters and tipis. The more permanent the less versatile, however lm not sure l need a lot of versatility. Pretty much rain and sometimes bug protection.

Ill have a basecamp shelter. Would you consider something more than a tarp to keep in your pack and not feel its redundant?
 

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I was talked into the LBO by Kevin the owner of Seekoutside and am very glad he did. I think it's the best solo shelter offered. With the 3pc vest. It weighs the same as the silvertip I believe. 6 stakes compared to 10 stakes for minimum pitch. For nice weather run it without the vestibule for star gazing. If you need bug protection throw a nest in and your still under 30oz. You can get creative and pitch it like a paratarp using trekking poles for rainy nights. The thing is amazing.
 

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I've never tried any seek outside shelters yet. I may in the future. I'm really digging there company though. They partner with BHA and that says a lot for a guy like me.

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I was talked into the LBO by Kevin the owner of Seekoutside and am very glad he did. I think it's the best solo shelter offered. With the 3pc vest. It weighs the same as the silvertip I believe. 6 stakes compared to 10 stakes for minimum pitch. For nice weather run it without the vestibule for star gazing. If you need bug protection throw a nest in and your still under 30oz. You can get creative and pitch it like a paratarp using trekking poles for rainy nights. The thing is amazing.

You read my mind! I was thinking it looked like you could lower the trekking pole and lean it foreward while spreading out the wings and pitching it similar to a supertarp. It seems like you could get pretty good coverage from sideways rain in a pinch.

Looking at it from another perspective, it looks like the silvertip is just about as open as the LBO with one or both doors open. And lighter. And a decent amount cheaper.

One thing I am still wondering- How does the footprint and height of the LBO compare to the silvertip?
 
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