Single Pin sights

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I switched last winter to a single pin in order to shoot indoor and get used to a new bow. Shot it great all winter and then took it on a march musk ox hunt. Had it set at 30 yards the entire hunt. First day, drew back on a bull and once at full draw realized that it was set on 30 and he was at 16 yards. That was fine, he was a great bull and my friends dad shot him later on, it was his first and he was elated. On the second day, I had a shot opportunity on another bull, he just happened to be about 30 yards and there was no issue, but he was moving a bit, a multi pin would have been better than moving the slider.

Then in May, I started spot and stalking grizzly bears. I messed up on two of them due to having to move my sight, they caught movement and bolted. With a multi pin, I am all but certain I would have arrowed both of them.

Stand hunting black bears and brown bears, sight was set at 20, no issues at all as I knew where my shots would be.

Caribou hunting, spot and stalk. Sight set at 30, stalked the first bull through some brush, once I got into an opening, he was standing about 15 yards away, sight was on 30, didn't want to guess so I didn't shoot. He ran off to around 40 and I was able to move my pin in a hurry and killed him. Second bull, stalked in a creek bottom, bugs were horrible, caribou kept on moving to get away from them. Every time I'd range and move the pin, he'd move by the time I could draw. After 3 or 4 times of doing that, he finally stood still long enough for the entire process of ranging, moving, drawing to go off without him moving and I killed him. It was a pain in the butt. Third bull, ranged him, thought site was correct and sent an arrow over his back. Luckily he didn't move, looked at slider, saw it was incorrect, dialed it in and killed him. With a fixed pin, that likely would not have happened.

Sheep hunting, I could see the benefit of the slider, more open country, easier to be precise for me with just one pin to focus on... Never got a shot in AK. But, hunted bighorns in MT... Moving the slider proved to once again be a pain in the butt when animals are moving about and one wants to be precise and dial it in to exact range. If one doesn't mind holding over or under, no problem but that isn't for me. I had a few shot where the time it took to range and move was not beneficial, but with a multi pin, would have been no issue.

Hunted bison, with the single pin slider, had one opportunity on a bull and it all worked out. I was able to range him and luckily already had it set on 50 yards, he was 48, drew and shot... had I not been prepared with it on 50, I'd bet he would have moved off as the other ones he was with had started feeding quickly in the other direction. Thank goodness it worked out, they were hard to locate and get close to.

Whitetails, on a feed field, out of a blind. I missed a few bucks in one evening and if I was into making excuses, I'd blame the fact that I had the slider and the deer kept moving each time I'd get settled into a shot, so I had to let down, move pin, etc. It was once again, a pain in the butt.

After all that, I decided to switch back to a 5 pin slider for a Kodiak brown bear hunt. I didn't want to be in any situation where I'd have to move a single pin, should the bear be moving etc. I didn't take a shot at a bear, had plenty of chances, but didn't see what I wanted. The second to last day, I stalked a buck from camp and it felt so good to range, draw and shoot without moving anything. A day later, I rattled a buck into 10 yards and killed him. With my slider, it would have been set on 30 and there wouldn't have been enough time to move it and as I said above, I do not like guessing.

Anyhow, that's the reasoning behind why I'll never shoot a single pin for hunting again. Maybe that will help some others.
 
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It could also be said that the ability to dial an exact distance may assist a better shot and kill an animal that would have otherwise been only wounded...

Hypotheticals are funny that way.

No doubt in my mind a single pin will be more precise in terms of having the exact yardage, etc. There is also no doubt in my mind that more often than not, at bowhunting ranges, the movement and time required to make that adjustment will often times be just enough for the animal to move or for your movement to spook it.
 

Muley15

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Spot Hogg double pin is the best of both and why I shoot them. I keep my pin set at 30 and the 2nd pin is at about 45. I practice shooting at different distances and know where to put it without adjusting. Im covered 0-60 without touching it.
 

TheCougar

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My buddy shoots a trophy taker option 8. You have both fixed and adjustable pins. Wicked expensive, though. Gritty Bowmen talked an it about the single pin sight on episode 173, towards the end of the episode. Changed my mind on shooting a single pin only sight.
 
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It could also be said that the ability to dial an exact distance may assist a better shot and kill an animal that would have otherwise been only wounded...

Hypotheticals are funny that way.
Dialing to the exact distance is nice but in all honesty the lungs on most animals make for a fairly large ten ring. When being able to hit a dinner plate gets you the same result as hitting a money spot but time is an issue then be happy with hitting the dinner plate.
 

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I've had a single pin sight now for about 4 years. I still prefer a 3 pin sight, though. I never noticed any accuracy issues with my 3 pin sight. If anything, I'm more accurate with a 3 pin sight versus a single pin. In all probability, I'll go back to a 3 pin sight in the future.
 
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Tex68w

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The beautiful thing about this sight is if I decide I want to move to a 3 or 5 pin I only need to purchase that scope and change it out. So should I find myself in a number of situations like Nick listed above then I can easily rectify the issue without changing to an entirely different sight. Personally I am not willing to deal with the cluttered and limited view of a multi-pin scope in order to accommodate random situations. But hey, different strokes.....
 

mauiarcher

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I love my sword sight Judge! I thought I was ready (again) for a single pin on my hunting rig...if my eyes were better to read the yardage (sucks getting old) I would have no quams. That being said, it has found a permanent home on my target bow.

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JustinN

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Anywhere to buy these cheaper than Lancaster?
You should check out the classifieds on Archery Talk. There's a bunch of quality stuff always for sale on there . I personally love Spott Hogg. I've tried several different scopes on mine and settled on a Viper scope, just really liked the clarity of the pin on that scope.

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Tex68w

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You should check out the classifieds on Archery Talk. There's a bunch of quality stuff always for sale on there . I personally love Spott Hogg. I've tried several different scopes on mine and settled on a Viper scope, just really liked the clarity of the pin on that scope.

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I ended up purchasing new in box off of the AT classifieds. In the end it came down to the Axcel Accutouch Carbon Pro Slider and the Spot Hogg Fast Eddie Double Pin and I chose the Axcel because I liked the lighter weight and the pre-set Accuclick points. I will try the Fast Eddie Double Pin should I find that I don't like the Axcel.
 

nexus

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just do the trick pin method and youre good 15-45 yards

I'm still amazed more guys don't investigate this method. With practice a hunter can quickly and effectively manage his margin of error to the equivalent or better than most can even guess distance on a real hunting situation in the field.
 

SoDakGuy

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Great info guys. Has anyone heard of the new rocky mountain driver single pin. Is supposed to be available in April. Seems like a good sight for only 130$. Although I do love my black gold sight I am thinking about trying another single pin for my new defiant set up.
 

Brendan

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I can shoot 40 and under with my single pin without adjustment. Also a big fan of the Spot Hogg double pin... I use the Hogg Father - easy to switch just the housing to multi-pin if I want.
 
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