SilencerCo Scythe Ti failures

[THellURider]

I’d say they built a new can and engraved same serial number for me.
Arrived today. Screwed or in my 22” rum, dialed and made first round impact on 8” circle at 1035 yards. If it will stay together, I’ll be happy

Remind me how many rounds you had on this can when it went poof?

 

[JJ.]

Remind me how many rounds you had on this can when it went poof?

Less than 150. All 300 rum. 26”,22” and 5 on a 20”. (Actually 19”, I rounded up)

 

[Foster_65]

I saw in another thread someone posted about a nomad failure that took 11 months to get fixed. I'm not sure if that was an xc ti or one of the others in the lineup, but it sounds like Dead Air hasn't fixed their CS issues. I considered this as an alternative to the scythe, but I still remember how poorly they handled the problems with the sierra 5.

For those of you with scythe failures, how has silencerco been as far as turn-around time to repair/replace?

I haven’t gotten mine back yet but as of now they have been excellent. It does suck to have to pay 35 bucks to ship it insured but not end of the world either

 

[ScienceNerd]

Two Failures,

1st -
Brand - Defiance Action, Benchmark Barrel, 22in
Model - 300 PRC
Caliber - 30
Grain Weight - 230 Berger
Brand of ammo - Hand Load, VVN568, BR2 primers, Lapua Brass Velocity ~2750fps

2nd - Same gun, less than 100 rounds in, RL26, 215M Primers, Lapua Brass, 195 gr Bulldozer, 2950 fps

 

[khuber84]

What the common denominator here, 22" or less, 30 cal magnums? Seems that's the highest %.

 

[ScienceNerd]

 

[ScienceNerd]

Two Failures,

1st -
Brand - Defiance Action, Benchmark Barrel, 22in
Model - 300 PRC
Caliber - 30
Grain Weight - 230 Berger
Brand of ammo - Hand Load, VVN568, BR2 primers, Lapua Brass Velocity ~2750fps

2nd - Same gun, less than 100 rounds in, RL26, 215M Primers, Lapua Brass, 195 gr Bulldozer, 2950 fps

They turned around the first failure really fast, 1 week and it over July

What the common denominator here, 22" or less, 30 cal magnums? Seems that's the highest %.

They told me "they don't recommend using hand loaded ammo with any of their suppressors." I told them there was no engineering logic to that, my hand loads are conservative and very consistent compared to plenty of factory ammo.

 

[peterk123]

They turned around the first failure really fast, 1 week and it over July

They told me "they don't recommend using hand loaded ammo with any of their suppressors." I told them there was no engineering logic to that, my hand loads are conservative and very consistent compared to plenty of factory ammo.

Didn't you know that handloaded bullets wobble when they leave the barrel?

 

[jbwright]

They turned around the first failure really fast, 1 week and it over July

They told me "they don't recommend using hand loaded ammo with any of their suppressors." I told them there was no engineering logic to that, my hand loads are conservative and very consistent compared to plenty of factory ammo.

Really? Is that printed anywhere or has anyone ever seen that printed by SCo? That's crazy

 

[Tahoe1305]

What the common denominator here, 22" or less, 30 cal magnums? Seems that's the highest %.

Yup. 22” is a tad long most a bit shorter. But I think nearly all magnums less than 24”

 

[jbwright]

What the common denominator here, 22" or less, 30 cal magnums? Seems that's the highest %.

I began compiling a spreadsheet this morning and I'm not convinced that's it - could be. It's fairly random, low 100's rounds, factory/hand loads etc. A decent amount of failures from some version of a 6 or 6.5mm. Diff barrel lengths. Those that have Mag's with no failures vs those with 1,000 rds and had a failure. I'm failing to see a pattern in the information we have at this point.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I would love to see that spreadsheet. My impression was that most failures were done magnums.


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[WI-Carcosa]

Would 6.5 PRC qualify as a “magnum” for the testing or is that round “safe ish” for now?

 

[wind gypsy]

What the common denominator here, 22" or less, 30 cal magnums? Seems that's the highest %.

I recall 7 saum, 7 prc, 280AI, and 7 STW failures mentioned in this thread.

 

[jbwright]

Still seems like it hasn’t accepted my second failure

When did your 1st failure occur? Saw that your 2nd was early Feb, I think - and were you shooting your 300 the first time, too?

 

[HighUintas]

They told me "they don't recommend using hand loaded ammo with any of their suppressors." I told them there was no engineering logic to that, my hand loads are conservative and very consistent compared to plenty of factory ammo.

This is about the most idiotic thing ever. Nowhere on their website or manual does it say that.

Edit: the scythe manual states this:

SilencerCo does not cover damage to the silencer
or host firearm resulting from improper “hand-
loaded, reloaded, previously used or otherwise
defective ammunition.”

However, that's very different than what you were told on the phone.

 

[ScienceNerd]

After looking though the thread it seems like perhaps they have some weld quality issues. Most of the pics show a failure on the same weld as mine or the one before or after. My assumption is that there design was close to the edge of failure point because they were trying to keep it light and they just don't have enough margin in the design strength to account for the variation they have in manufacture/material. There was one pic of a failure not on a weld. Question is, do I change anything or just hope for 3rd time lucky?

I know shooting factory and crossing my fingers is not a sufficiently scientific response to the problem!

 

[Tullis94]

Two Failures,

1st -
Brand - Defiance Action, Benchmark Barrel, 22in
Model - 300 PRC
Caliber - 30
Grain Weight - 230 Berger
Brand of ammo - Hand Load, VVN568, BR2 primers, Lapua Brass Velocity ~2750fps

2nd - Same gun, less than 100 rounds in, RL26, 215M Primers, Lapua Brass, 195 gr Bulldozer, 2950 fps

Same can failed twice or 2 separate Scythes on the same rifle? If the same can, did it fail on the same weld?

 

[waspocrew]

Curious about this as well. If same can, SiCo is going to need to address this soon. Clearly there are issues with “no barrel length restrictions”.

 

[ScienceNerd]

Same can failed twice or 2 separate Scythes on the same rifle? If the same can, did it fail on the same weld?

Same can, althought the guy at Silencerco said that when they remake them they weld a whole new baffle stack onto the part with the serial number on it, so the part that failed was in theory a different welded part both times. It did fail in the same place both times.