shooting both eyes open

I stay breathing as far as i know and like i said im good for one maybe two shots but after that its almost like..... I went and shot real quick to get a good reminder..... Its like they are fighting for dominance almost? Like my peep, pin and even buble go WAY blurry and the target from my left eye comes in clear then they switch back. I was ok the first 4 shots, it didnt really happen, but after that it started to make my head spin going in and out of focus one side to the other. Maybe its just me not being used to it? I had kinda gave up on trying it, maybe Ill give it another shot.

It almost sounds like your left eye is dominant. And I assume you shoot right handed. So ya... You will have a really hard time transitioning if that I the case. Honestly if your happy with the way your shooting and you've tried before I wouldn't worry about it.
 
I always thought both eyes open was standard technique? Surprised to see this is a new concept to some. I've never not shot with both eyes open with anything but a scoped rifle. Hand gun, bow and open sight rifles have always been two eyes on the target. If your not shooting this way you need to start. It will greatly improve your shooting
yep,makes total sense that its standard procedure. its hard with all my archery/hunting bros scatterd across the state. im left learning this stuff with lots of time on the range and from reading threads here. makes me wonder what other simple seeming things there are that i just dont know about yet.that is something about archery that i love,seems that there is always something new to learn
 
Bone, there's lots of good tutorials on the Internet about it if you Google it. The best place to look though will be the hand gunners. Theres not a pro shooter out there not shooting with both eyes open. Handguns are where I first learned how to do it. It translated pretty seamlessly to archery as you can imagine. Spend some time with both and I bet you pick it up fast. First thing you need to do is learn to ignore the double image that you'll see just starting out. Shoot at the clear one. Sounds funny but it works
 
It almost sounds like your left eye is dominant. And I assume you shoot right handed. So ya... You will have a really hard time transitioning if that I the case. Honestly if your happy with the way your shooting and you've tried before I wouldn't worry about it.

Ya Im RH shooter but do have dominant right also.... Idk what to think, like i said ill play with it again this year just to see. If it helps at all i will stick with it.... If its more trouble than its worth then Ill ditch it again ha
 
i wish.. rightty with lefty eye dominate. aint gonna happen. i tried once. never found that arrow. haha.
 
amp, Try squinting your left eye. You will still get the depth perception but your less dominant eye will be less competitive and won't try to over compensate.
 
There are a few good points on this thread... But I have to make a few points here.

1) shooting with both eyes open is better that with one eye closed. Why? Because your face is more relaxed and your pupil is larger, allowing more light into the eye. This will NOT improve depth perception while looking through the peep sight. Everyone has what is called a "phoric posture" which is where the eyes go to rest when they are not seeing the same image (like when one eye is closed or in this case, one is looking through the peep and the other is not.) This posture is NOT pointed at the target, thus you will see double unless your eye suppresses one image... either way, you are not getting 3d or depth perception.

2) You will never be looking at the target with one eye and the pin with another. It is physically impossible. Also, you can not techincally ever see the target and the pin clearly at the same time... again, impossible.

3) Shooting with both eyes open is NOT inherently more accurate. line up the peep, the pin, and the target.... all else held equal, a 1 eye or 2 eye shot will hit the exact same point.

so WHY is it better?

As mentioned above, shooting with both eyes open allows you to relax at full draw. It also allows more light into the eye, again making for a more relaxed and possibly sharper target image. Keeping both eyes open during draw or while waiting at full draw will allow better field of view for movement or other things inthe peripheral vision. BUT, once you are behind the peep and aiming, your brain suppresses the image from your off eye and these seeming advantages are lost.

ALMOST ALL Pro archers shoot with both eyes open. BUT, if you look, many at the top shoot with blinders on their cap, tape on their glasses, or some other way of blocking the image to the off eye. Therefore, they are not getting better peripheral vision or depth perception. It does help, but not for many of the reasons mentioned. The comparison to shotgun or pistol shooting is not accurate, in these disciplines you are able to see the front sight (pistol) or target (shotgun) with BOTH eyes. With a rifle, it is similar, but much easier because one image is clear and magnified.

Why am I making a big deal out of this? I see it so often that people will stress over trying to shoot with both eyes open. I have even seen people try to shoot the opposite hand in order to accomplish this. I just think that there is more hype than is worth it. I just want to make sure that no one loses too much sleep.

LONG STORY SHORT: SHOOTING WITH BOTH EYES OPEN CAN IMPROVE YOUR FORM AND EXECUTION, THUS MAKING A MORE ACCURATE SHOT. THIS IS NOT TO SAY IT IS INHERENTLY MORE ACCURATE AND THAT YOU CANNOT ACHIEVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF ACCURACY IF YOU HAVE TO CLOSE ONE EYE.

Joe
 
Bone, there's lots of good tutorials on the Internet about it if you Google it. The best place to look though will be the hand gunners. Theres not a pro shooter out there not shooting with both eyes open. Handguns are where I first learned how to do it. It translated pretty seamlessly to archery as you can imagine. Spend some time with both and I bet you pick it up fast. First thing you need to do is learn to ignore the double image that you'll see just starting out. Shoot at the clear one. Sounds funny but it works

buff,thats awsome , the reason i even tried this was from shooting my .45 with a bro who told me "open your eyes man!"no shit. thanks for the tips bro,im going to get this dialed .
 
Joe makes a lot of good points, almost to the point where I think you may have given it a little too much thought... but I have to disagree a little about both eyes with pistols not comparing to archery. you are correct in the fact that it's a completely different sight picture and you eyes are doing different things but what it does do is help train your brain to decipher the sight picture with two eyes as opposed to one.


Bone, get after it. I feel it opens up a lot more ability in your shooting game
 
You shouldnt shoot ANYTHING with one eye closed. "Proper" method is both eyes open, rifle, bow, shotgun, doesnt matter.

Only if you have a dominance issue, or co-dominance should you close one eye (or better, squint one eye to overcome co-dominance issues).
 
I've shot both eyes for as long as I can remember, though I probably learned with one eye shut. Unless you've got eye dominance issues, it's the way to go for sure. Bow and handgun. I don't shoot rifles much, but for my AR's through EoTechs, I use both eyes as well.
 
I shoot both eyes open. Better sight picture, better light transmission. I've also found that you can see the arrow better after release, which results in better follow through since you are less apt to "peek" after hitting the trigger.
 
Joe makes a lot of good points, almost to the point where I think you may have given it a little too much thought... but I have to disagree a little about both eyes with pistols not comparing to archery. you are correct in the fact that it's a completely different sight picture and you eyes are doing different things but what it does do is help train your brain to decipher the sight picture with two eyes as opposed to one.


Bone, get after it. I feel it opens up a lot more ability in your shooting game
Haha... didn't over think it, it's my job. I answer questions and explain things like this all day every day. The pistol thing probably has some merit... when concentrating on a near object you get 2 targets, with a bow, you get two of everything. In practice it may help to cross train, optically it is very different... on second though may be I am over thinking that part haha

Joe
 
I'm another one this is news to. I kinda taught myself I guess, with a little coaching here and there but this never came up. I'll try it tomorrow.
 
amp, Try squinting your left eye. You will still get the depth perception but your less dominant eye will be less competitive and won't try to over compensate.



Ill give it a shot. Like i said im not too overly worried. I shoot pretty good as is but any thing to help me out ill jump on!
 
Both eyes open for me, guy who taught me told me it was so I could see that bigger bull coming in from the far left ;)
I also believe it really translates into form. For me it helps to be able to focus on the target rather than my pins.
 
I've tried both open many times, and it's tough. Accuracy has never been better than with one closed, but I'd change in a heart beat if it was. My problem is that I see two sets of pins and two targets with both eyes open. So either way I have to close one eye to start with anyway, and then opening it back up doesn't seem to change anything for me.........so I stick with shooting with one eye closed.
 
This thread got me thinking about how many folks out there discover they are a different eye dominant by trying to test this. :) We had a guy in the shop that came in that was shooting with 1 eye closed, and I dont mean just closed but he had to really work to shut that other eye. When we noticed this we tested him and found he was left eye dominant shooting a right handed bow cause hes right handed. We had him try the left handed bow at a low weight and he was pretty amazed at how well he was able to aim with both eyes open.
We get some folks who can do it either way also. Good topic that is shrouded in mystery of the human mind and how it works.
 
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