Shooting bareshafts at 100 yd?

[joshdidthis]

So tonight I was shooting at 100 yd for practice and on my last arrow I decided to shoot a bareshaft. I had 2 targets side by side on a hill so the chances were slim if losing it. I can shoot fairly good at 100, USUALLY inside a pie plate. I wasn't expecting to hit the target with the bareshaft, but it actually did. It was about the same elevation as the others, only it hit about 18-20" to the right. My question is, have any of you ever done this for tuning or did I just get lucky?

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[307]

Rokslide is becoming more like Archery Talk every day.

 

[WYCFM1]

Sounds about right if you shoot right handed with slight torque. My bareshaft hits to the right also. But my bow is paper tuned perfect bullet hole then went to walk back tuned it and didn’t have to touch the rest. My bareshaft shoots within a 6” group at 60 yds. So I call that ready to hunt all day long.

Sounds like your well off for hunting with fletched arrows.


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[WYCFM1]

@307 a lot of the same ppl are members of both forums. It gonna be ok


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[2blade]

I've done it to 80 yards as part of my tuning, bare shaft hit about 6" left. That was with a bow I don't own anymore. Now a days if my bareshaft hits with field points at 20, 30 and 40 I'm done.

 

[5MilesBack]

My question is, have any of you ever done this for tuning or did I just get lucky?

The question is.......how would you use that for tuning? And are your BH's hitting 18-20" right as well? The furthest I've shot bare shafts is 50 yards. Here's a pic with FP (left) and BS and BH arrows at 50. It didn't take much of an adjustment to clean that up and bring them together. But they were all together at 40 before that pic.

 

[dkime]

Check out some of Greg Pooles info on this, he uses a hooter shooter for this type of activity. In my world bare shafts should be shot through paper, and maybe at 20 if Im bored. Through the different spine reaction alone I don’t see any value in shooting them out to that distance, unless you’re getting paid to have someones brand on your shirt. I think your results would concern me more from a vertical spread than a horizontal, why is an arrow with less turbulence and (assuming you didn’t use tape to make up the difference) this difference in weight hitting in the same horizontal plane as my arrows with greater mass and turbulence. Don’t over think this too much.


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[Boxerboxer]

Rokslide is becoming more like Archery Talk every day.

As long as it's only in content and not delivery (which mostly it seems to be), I'm totally ok with that.

 

[Brendan]

In my world bare shafts should be shot through paper, and maybe at 20 if Im bored.

Multiple ways to do it, I rarely ever use paper anymore. For me - bare shafts vs. fletched at 20, 30, 40 then confirm with broadheads. Can have the bow completely tuned with one trip to the range without ever setting up a paper tuning rack.

I haven't gone further than 40 though, very hard to stay consistent with bare shafts as the range increases, and that consistency is what you need to be able to tune off of the result.

 

[Super 91]

I bareshaft tune at 20, but rarely shoot bareshaft further than that. I wouldn't say you were "lucky", I'd say you have a very good tune and excellent form. If there was any wind at all, that might account for the 18" spread as the bareshaft is not going to be affected by wind much at all.

 

[joshdidthis]

Yeah I don't usually shoot bareshafts past 40 so I was pleasantly surprised to hear it hit. I may try it some more and see if there is any consistency to it.

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[NYSKIER]

I've done it to 80 yards as part of my tuning, bare shaft hit about 6" left. That was with a bow I don't own anymore. Now a days if my bareshaft hits with field points at 20, 30 and 40 I'm done.

That's all I do as well 100 is insane. I'd that either a great mix of skill and good tuning

 

[justin davis]

I shoot bareshafts out to 100 I’ll do it when tuning to check tune. No need to but it is a confidence booster on your tune and form.

Here is a pic from yesterday at 100 yards . 2 bareshafts in the mix

 

[Ag111]

I do the same thing out to 50. Barehaft tuning (like most bow tuning) gets easier and more precise the more accurate you can consistently shoot. I am about a 10 moa archer on my best day, so I don't really have the accuracy needed to Barehaft tune further than 50. If you are inconsistent shot to shot and not very accurate, bow tuning will be more challenging. The better you get at one, the better you get at the other imo.

I have found that if my bare shaft are flying straight and hitting close to FP at 30, the tune is usually good enough to shoot broadheads at long ranges accurately with FPs.

 

[ontarget7]

Tuning at 100, no.

Back to 20 yards with perfect entry matching fletched. Past that it’s more form than anything particularly grip. At 100 yards 18” is not bad at all. Slight pressure change in the grip and more thumb pad you would actually be right with fletched.




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[ontarget7]

I bareshaft tune at 20, but rarely shoot bareshaft further than that. I wouldn't say you were "lucky", I'd say you have a very good tune and excellent form. If there was any wind at all, that might account for the 18" spread as the bareshaft is not going to be affected by wind much at all.

I actually find the opposite and bareshafts are easily drifted do to wind. Where fletching fights it to stay on coarse quite a bit more


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[TBHasler]

I don’t get how any of this matters? If we’re talking hunting - you don’t shoot bare shafts. You dont shoot field points. Am I wrong in thinking the only thing that matters for hunting set up (not practicing form, technique, etc.) is where do things hit fletched with broadheads??

 

[ontarget7]

I don’t get how any of this matters? If we’re talking hunting - you don’t shoot bare shafts. You dont shoot field points. Am I wrong in thinking the only thing that matters for hunting set up (not practicing form, technique, etc.) is where do things hit fletched with broadheads??

If you have clean bareshafts your fieldpoints and broadheads impacting the same won’t be a problem.

I’ll throw this question out
Why would one not one clean true arrow flight ?


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[jmez]

It matters because you can shoot accurately with terrible arrow flight.

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[5MilesBack]

I don’t get how any of this matters? If we’re talking hunting - you don’t shoot bare shafts. You dont shoot field points. Am I wrong in thinking the only thing that matters for hunting set up (not practicing form, technique, etc.) is where do things hit fletched with broadheads??

I may shoot one BH tipped arrow in an entire 30 day elk season, but I'll shoot 10k+ arrows the other 11 months out of the year. So I have 11 months and 1000's of arrows to perfect my setup and form........just for that one shot. Wouldn't you want perfect arrow flight for that one BH shot?

I've considered shooting an entire 3D tourney with a bare shaft........just for the heck of it. That has nothing to do with hunting either, but we're guys......that's what we do.......we shoot a lot of stuff and take a lot of challenging shots........just for the heck of it.