Shoot 2 Hunt 0-600 Yard Online Class

[SDHNTR]

That’s called wounding. You really don’t teach someone to shoot before taking them hunting?

Lol that’s a terrible idea.

Absolutely not. It’s figuring out how to outsmart an animal, so you don’t have to shoot at it from a half mile away.

 

[Jason Snyder]

Absolutely not. It’s figuring out how to outsmart an animal, so you don’t have to shoot at it from a half mile away.

Not sure what your heartburn is about.

I know plenty of hunters who don’t really know how to shoot well, and I know shooters who don’t know how to hunt well.

I learned a heck of a lot of hunting skills on my own, through trial and error. There were a lot of shooting skills I learned much later in life, after I had hunted quite a bit.

Fortunately, I didn’t wound and lose any animal because of it, but I’m also very conservative. There certainly were a few that didn’t have to be as difficult as they were, and were only recovered because of hunting and tracking skills I developed along the way.

 

[SDHNTR]

It’s not heartburn. I just value the tradition and roots of hunting. This feels contrary to that, to me. It’s more ick than heartburn. Hunting is something sacred, to be passed down person to person with knowledge that was hard earned. Not learned in front of an impersonal computer screen. Again, just my take. You don’t have to like it. I respect your opinion too.

 

[Jason Snyder]

Not learned in front of an impersonal computer screen.

In fairness, I learned a lot by reading books and magazine articles (largely crappy ones) on my own. Is this any different?

 

[mtnbound]

I remember my dad teaching me to shoot before I could legally hunt. Still, I also recall many years following, probably annoying my dad and uncles during hunting season, without carrying a weapon, so I could concentrate on learning hunting skills. Everyone learns differently, and I can see a good online program providing some individuals with valuable information, especially in this age of all the social media influencers talking nonsense.

 

[JFK]

and an awful lot of guys think they’re Rambo and have zero clue how to hunt because to them “hunting” is just shooting at live animals at long distances. Because, “I’m good bruh, I took a class”.

Yeah, fair enough. Just meant to say that shooting and getting around people that are better is never a bad thing. I took a one day shotgun class and having someone see where you are making mistakes and give you pointers made me a better shot. Skills that will last a lifetime. Wasn’t going to happen on its own. You don’t know what you don’t know sometimes.

 

[mt terry d]

and an awful lot of guys think they’re Rambo and have zero clue how to hunt because to them “hunting” is just shooting at live animals at long distances. Because, “I’m good bruh, I took a class”.

I've been hunting over 60 years. The Shoot2Hunt class taught me the exact opposite.
I can't speak for any other classes. ( I expect Ryan and Cliff Gray can. Might want to
pick their brains on this topic)

Just this past winter that education ( proven to me by me at the class) is what made me
pass up a shot opportunity well within my "effective range". It is also what made me aware
and shameful of a previous poor decision I made that I swear I will not make again.

Not having attempted to create an on-line class I am not aware of all the
difficulties or the amount of time and effort required to produce a quality
product but expect it must be a monumental undertaking.

I know an on-line class would benefit myself even though I've taken the class twice.
( yeah, slow learner, so sue me).

I'll bet there are thousands of guys who, for various reasons, would love to take
this class but can't. Though not a replacement for hands on instruction it could
go a long way to making hunters more efficient, more aware how much they actually
suck hence more ethical in their attempted game-killing decisions.

 

[atmat]

I find it interesting that a frequent visitor of a hunting forum says you can’t learn anything about hunting online.

I personally see the kill as part of hunting, and encourage new hunters to practice shooting.

If other guys think wounding at close range is okay because of sacred tradition — well, that’s on them.

 

[Wprinkle]

Anyone that does not explore every avenue of "learning/improving" all aspects of hunting is doing themselves a disservice. Spending time in the mountains, reading ecology books, learning land nav, formal and informal training on all things, reps after reps of shooting/ stalking/ tracking/ bugling all that helping culminate in success. I agree not everything can be learned without having performed it but having a base knowledge damn sure helps. Watching a YouTube video on land nav is not the same as spending a week in the woods in a controlled environment counting ranger beads.. but its also nice to know you need beads and a compass before you get the the week long nav class... Have the discernment to weed through the BS take the nuggets and learn all you can in every way you can..

 

[LongWayAround]

I can hunt big game with a rifle a couple of months out of the year. I can shoot for fun any time I want.

I can't imagine finding conflict with a shooting class.

Do we have an actual update on the class?

 

[SDHNTR]

OK. Sorry, I didn’t mean to derail the intent of the thread. I was just being a wise ass. There’s apparently a market for it. Carry on.

 

[Formidilosus]

and an awful lot of guys think they’re Rambo and have zero clue how to hunt because to them “hunting” is just shooting at live animals at long distances. Because, “I’m good bruh, I took a class”.

How many of these people do you know? Where are all these people at? I don’t know a single “Rambo” who takes classes and hunts.

 

[Formidilosus]

Didn’t most of us grow up in the woods with BB guns and slingshots and makeshift bows as soon as we could walk? I learned to hunt and shoot stuff long before I knew what a milrad was.

What does that have to do with what you stated, and what I asked?

 

[West2East]

How many of these people do you know? Where are all these people at? I don’t know a single “Rambo” who takes classes and hunts.

That must've been Rambo 1.5 - First Hunt.
I think I'm looking for as many resources as possible to be the best I can all around. Plus, it's fun shooting and it translates directly to hunting. skills build on other skills

 

[SDHNTR]

How many of these people do you know? Where are all these people at? I don’t know a single “Rambo” who takes classes and hunts.

I don’t know any, because they just aren’t my people. But I sure see plenty in the field and at the range. Decked out in their tactical wear with chassis guns and heavy tripods. They seem far more interested in the shooting part than they are the hunting part. The name of the course says it all. Shoot to hunt. That’s simply not my preference. I prefer to hunt first, then shoot. Hunting fascinates me far more than shooting.

Look, it’s just a different vibe. You aren’t gonna convince me to take your side and I’m not convincing you to take mine. That’s ok.

 

[West2East]

So @Formidilosus since you're in here. Do you have any kind of update or is it out of your hands?

 

[atmat]

I prefer to hunt first, then shoot. Hunting fascinates me far more than shooting.

Lol but you can’t hunt without shooting. That’s the whole point. You have to teach someone to shoot before they can hunt. It’s not a “vibe,” it’s logistics.

It’s totally fine to be opposed to shooting animals beyond X distance because of preference.

But to say it makes more sense to hunt before you learn to shoot is insanity. It’s like saying, “I prefer to hunt before I can walk. Hunting interests me more than walking.”

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I don’t know any, because they just aren’t my people. But I sure see plenty in the field and at the range. Decked out in their tactical wear with chassis guns and heavy tripods. They seem far more interested in the shooting part than they are the hunting part. The name of the course says it all. Shoot to hunt. That’s simply not my preference. I prefer to hunt first, then shoot. Hunting fascinates me far more than shooting.

Look, it’s just a different vibe. You aren’t gonna convince me to take your side and I’m not convincing you to take mine. That’s ok.

Because folks spend all year “waiting” potentially scouting, then the hunt itself finally happens. All the time, effort, energy, time off work, time away from family, vacation days and sick days burned…

All that goes for “no meat” with thousands of hunters each year because they can’t shoot. It doesn’t matter if you’re the best “hunter” on the planet if you can’t kill the animal. Now, are all hunting trips a “waste” if you don’t kill? I certainly don’t think so, but if there is a way to become a more effective killer by learning the “shooting” portion of hunting than why the heck not go learn?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a HUGE proponent of woodsmanship and backpacking before anyone even starts to chase animals in the back country. We used to have guys and gals go backpacking with us multiple times in the summer before taking them on their first Fall hunts in the mountains.

That’s a “different” aspect to the overarching “activity” that is “hunting”. The class mentioned here seems to be dedicated and focused on the shooting and killing portion of hunting, ya know, the part that actually gets you the meat.

To dismiss that and say “just go hunting” is honestly, terrible advice.

 

[Formidilosus]

I don’t know any, because they just aren’t my people. But I sure see plenty in the field and at the range. Decked out in their tactical wear with chassis guns and heavy tripods. They seem far more interested in the shooting part than they are the hunting part.

So- no actual knowledge of it, just a “vibe”.

The name of the course says it all. Shoot to hunt. That’s simply not my preference. I prefer to hunt first, then shoot. Hunting fascinates me far more than shooting.

Look, it’s just a different vibe. You aren’t gonna convince me to take your side and I’m not convincing you to take mine. That’s ok.

What side are talking about? You are 100% ignorant what Shoot2Hunt is, does, and promotes; yet you consistently act like you do. Beyond that, you’re not even using logical thought- just “I feel”.

The reality is that hunters objectively suck at shooting. They are generally dangerous gun handlers, and they miss and wound animals at a rate that should cause great concern, yet doesn’t because “hunting” and “I don’t like shooting”. Your positions with what you post consistently show cognitive dissonance rather than understanding.


I’m not trying to be a jerk or argue. It’s that it seems you more like yelling at clouds, rather than understanding what you are trying to get at.

 

[mother_plucker]

Nope. Learn to hunt (which can’t happen in a classroom, online or otherwise) first and shoot second. Then everything naturally falls into place. Get that backwards because someone took an online class and thinks they’re a long range operator, and bullets get sprayed everywhere .

Pretty sure my hunters safety that I took when I was a kid was taught in a classroom setting. Everyone learns differently. To say that it shouldn't be done one way or another is your point of view. Maybe someone is good to read up, study and learn the how and why, and then can put that into practice. Square box doesn't fit all the shapes...