Sauer 100 - Talk me out of it

[Cdnance]

Pretty sure you’re willing to die on that hill!

Other than you not believing it possible to rebarrel, even though it’s been proven possible, what don’t you like about the rifle?

 

[xsn10s]

Pretty sure you’re willing to die on that hill!

Other than you not believing it possible to rebarrel, even though it’s been proven possible, what don’t you like about the rifle?

It's possible, but not practical. And even taking the barrel off voids any warranty. Little aftermarket support. You can't even buy stocks or barrels from the manufacturer. And little to no prefit barrels. Those reasons alone I'd take a Tikka over a Sauer. And I'm not even a Tikka fan.

Update: Also the slow barrel twists. Only the 6.5 PRC has an updated barrel twist. The rest are too slow for my taste.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

It's possible, but not practical. And even taking the barrel off voids any warranty. Little aftermarket support. You can't even buy stocks or barrels from the manufacturer. And little to no prefit barrels. Those reasons alone I'd take a Tikka over a Sauer. And I'm not even a Tikka fan.

Do you realistically expect to ever utilize a warranty on a rifle? Offering the warranty is basically just marketing. I wouldn’t purchase any firearm on which I thought I would ever need to use the warranty.


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[xsn10s]

Do you realistically expect to ever utilize a warranty on a rifle? Offering the warranty is basically just marketing. I wouldn’t purchase any firearm on which I thought I would ever need to use the warranty.


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Any manufacturer can have QC issues. So yes a warranty can be used and is a realistic concern. I'm surprised that's even a serious question lol.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Any manufacturer can have QC issues. So yes a warranty can be used and is a realistic concern. I'm surprised that's even a serious question lol.

I have purchased three new rifles in my life (all CZ .22s) and three new pistols (two Sigs and a Beretta). The thought of what kind of warranty they offered never even crossed my mind. The other thirty or so firearms I have owned were all secondhand.

The idea that I would purchase a lethal weapon on which my life might depend based on its warranty or lack thereof is absurd to me.

A firearm is a relatively simple mechanical device that is easy to fix or have fixed. It’s easy to customize in this day and age, even without 3675 aftermarket options. And even easier to leave alone as long as it works.

You can see what you are getting when you buy it, except for how well it shoots. And the guarantees on that are usually meaningless from a non-custom maker, since they mean “any single three-shot group ever fired from the rifle will be within an inch,” not “every shot ever fired from the rifle will be within an inch.”


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[hibernation]

And even easier to leave alone as long as it works.

Leaving something alone just because it works? This entire forum is proof that's nearly impossible. There's always futzing to be done.

 

[S-3 ranch]

Why try to talk you out of buying one of the best off the rack modestly priced
Guns? Slap on a scope pick your favorite bullet and go hunting

 

[Castle Rock]

Pretty exceptional gun for ruger American dollars

Last week
First shot out of an oily barrel was high as expected ( I live on the coast), the next four were pretty tidy

 

[Cdnance]

Last week
First shot out of an oily barrel was high as expected ( I live on the coast), the next four were pretty tidy

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Which rifle did you get?

 

[CMP70306]

For a site that is a huge proponent of practicing with your gear, using heavy for caliber high BC bullets, short barrels with suppressors and has an entire cottage industry around modifying Tikka rifles y’all got real antagonistic over a legitimate question about removing the barrel on a rifle that comes with barrels no shorter than 22”, slow twist rates like 1-10 for .223, per the manufacturer risks damaging the threads upon removal and has no dedicated gunsmiths to do the work at this time.

 

[Schmo]

For a site that is a huge proponent of practicing with your gear, using heavy for caliber high BC bullets, short barrels with suppressors and has an entire cottage industry around modifying Tikka rifles y’all got real antagonistic over a legitimate question about removing the barrel on a rifle that comes with barrels no shorter than 22”, slow twist rates like 1-10 for .223, per the manufacturer risks damaging the threads upon removal and has no dedicated gunsmiths to do the work at this time.

Huh? The cartridges and twists rates weren’t the point of discussion. The reliability of the rifle, and ability to rebarrel were. The rifles are very solid, and Alpine Rifles in Montana will rebarrel them. So I’m not sure what you’re getting at

 

[Cdnance]

Seems like lots of smiths will rebarrel them. It’s really just that one guy who knows a machinist or something wanted to make it out to be impossible.
After he was proven wrong time after time, his biggest issue was that if you change barrels you void the warranty… which would be the case on almost any factory rifle out there.

 

[Schmo]

Seems like lots of smiths will rebarrel them. It’s really just that one guy who knows a machinist or something wanted to make it out to be impossible.

Yeah. If a "gunsmith" wants to tell me that a rifle with a threaded barrel tenon can't be replaced, then he definitely doesn't have to worry about getting any business from me. I prefer competent smiths.

 

[CMP70306]

Huh? The cartridges and twists rates weren’t the point of discussion. The reliability of the rifle, and ability to rebarrel were. The rifles are very solid, and Alpine Rifles in Montana will rebarrel them. So I’m not sure what you’re getting at

But if the twist rate isn’t right for the chambering, which most of them aren’t for the modern bullets we shoot, then a rebarrel would be required. At its cheap price for a quality rifle that would make it a legitimate choice for such a conversion so it’s an important consideration for a potential buyer.

Since even cutting and rethreading requires removing the barrel from the actions, which per the manufacturer risks damaging them, it was a legitimate question for anyone interested in the rifle that wanted to modify the one part of the rifle with any aftermarket options.

My point was guy reached out to the manufacturer and was told that rebarreling the rifle could strip the threads and he couldn’t find a smith to do the work. That was on page 1 and kicked off a bickering match for the next 7 pages until the guy from Alpine Rifles chimed in that he could rebarrel them. Seemed like an overly antagonistic response for a legitimate question.

 

[Cdnance]

I’m thinking that people said it could be done before the Alpine guy.

But just to put your comment in perspective, if you buy a brand new pickup and first thing you do is modify the engine, the factory is going to recommend against it and your warranty will be null and void. Same exact situation

Fair to say the “antagonists” were on both sides if any.

 

[Castle Rock]

Which rifle did you get?

Sauer 6.5 PRC

 

[Cdnance]

Sauer 6.5 PRC

Very nice! Looks like she is shooting good!

 

[5811]

Since even cutting and rethreading requires removing the barrel from the actions

This is not true.

 

[Phinehas25]

I bought a Sauer 100 a few months ago. I really want ti like this rifle but it's kind of a POS.

It had 100% failure to eject. Customer service wanted me to "polish the chamber- not just clean but a true polish"

The chamber is fine, so I didn't do that, and I had to push CS to send me a new extractor and extractor spring.

That fixed that issue. For how long remains to be seen, because the extractor spring is just a flimsy wire.

The next issue I had was the cocking piece would rotate off of its notch if I cycled the bolt fast. This locks the action up bad.

I had to file the notch in the bolt body deeper to prevent this from happening.

Despite all this, I really like the stock and the flush 5 shot magazine. I will probably take it hunting if it keeps working.

I do believe Tikka is superior in every way except for the stock and the magazine.

It is probably on par with a Ruger American except for the stock.

 

[JWZissou]

Just got an email from Europtic
6.5 Creedmoor 22” is on sale for $450…seems like a solid deal for anyone looking to get into one