Sauer 100 - Talk me out of it

[longrangelead]

I'll repeat it for the 3rd time, not everyone wants the factory offering. There are lots of guys who buy aftermarket barrels to obtain their desired specs. Again, chances are, they are able to be re barreled similar to most other screw in barrel rifles. Very little info on them. I personally would not buy a rifle I could not easily rebarrel. I much prefer to put a barrel on that meets my needs and wants. Similar to your desire to change stocks. It doesn't affect the accuracy but does make the rifle more pleasant to shoot.

that I can understand. as for shooting out and replacing factory barrels, Sauer might just be the best disposable rifle now.

 

[Cdnance]

Pretty ironic that this thread title is “talk me out of a Sauer 100” and here I am ordering one online! I haven’t been this excited about a rifle in a long time!

 

[dirtshooter]

That would be good info to know

here's the real question - has anyone been able to stabilize a 77 tmk in the 10 twist sauer 223?

 

[Lonewolf72]

I had heard that the early Ceratech models had finish problems...that it was thin or peeled. Is this still a problem? Would it be better to get the standard blued model, or upgrade to Ceratech for weather-resistance?

 

[Castle Rock]

Just get stainless

 

[Lonewolf72]

Just get stainlessView attachment 923655

Are you sure your rifle has a stainless barrel and action? I believe all rifles like yours come with a coating of Gray Ice Cerakote (Ceratech). I heard there could be stainless models available in Europe, but not the U.S.

 

[Castle Rock]

You believe wrong

 

[Lonewolf72]

You believe wrong

How so? I've owned 2, including one that looked exactly like yours, sans threading.

The website now shows a new stainless model...Sauer 100 Stainless XTA. It has an adjustable cheek riser. A quick Google check...I didn't see it available here and most articles on this model are from outside the US.
Sauer 100 Stainless XTA | J. P. Sauer & Sohn https://share.google/i96hEB0gdwUUiGbFV

 

[Castle Rock]

Sorry to bring back a zombie thread but heads up, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone to rebarrel a Sauer 100. So if you get one as a hunting rifle pick a high round count cartridge like 308 Win.

The Mauser M18 and the Sauer100 are the same rifle with a couple of cosmetic changes
Here is a detailed look at the barrel freshly pulled
Thread Tennon

 

[Lonewolf72]

Are the ones marked "silver" not stainless?

https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/47030/sauer+100+silver+xt+7mm-08+remington+bolt+action+rifle

They are NOT STAINLESS STEEL. Per Bud's website:
"Sauer S1SX708 100 Silver XT Bolt 7mm-08 Remington 22" 5+1 Synthetic Black Stk Stainless Cerakote"

The description states "Stainless Cerakote". I believe the "Silver" model is synonymous with "Ceratech". I think Sauer USA once listed this gun as a separate model on their website, but no longer.

 

[lelliott8]

They are NOT STAINLESS STEEL. Per Bud's website:
"Sauer S1SX708 100 Silver XT Bolt 7mm-08 Remington 22" 5+1 Synthetic Black Stk Stainless Cerakote"

The description states "Stainless Cerakote". I believe the "Silver" model is synonymous with "Ceratech". I think Sauer USA once listed this gun as a separate model on their website, but no longer.

Yeah I figured that out with the part numbers. Confusing

 

[Castle Rock]

How so? I've owned 2, including one that looked exactly like yours, sans threading.

The website now shows a new stainless model...Sauer 100 Stainless XTA. It has an adjustable cheek riser. A quick Google check...I didn't see it available here and most articles on this model are from outside the US.
Sauer 100 Stainless XTA | J. P. Sauer & Sohn https://share.google/i96hEB0gdwUUiGbFV

Some people would argue about anything

 

[Lonewolf72]

There has been a ton of misinformation parroted by gun writers and others since this rifle hit the market.

Yeah I figured that out with the part numbers. Confusing

 

[Lonewolf72]

Some people would argue about anything

Says the man who has not yet justified how he purchased an actual stainless steel Sauer 100 in the United States. Unless you purchased your rifle outside the US?

 

[Brontosaurus]

At $499-$799, it's cheaper to buy a new rifle than rebarrel it.
why is rebarreling the hang up?

This is the question to ask. Furthermore you could probably get 300 bucks for the rifle and go put it towards another.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

OP. If I were you, I’d just buy a tikka and rock on with it… Sauers have little to no aftermarket support and are much more “unknown” for general quality/longevity from action to trigger to barrel. They may be the “best” out there, but sample size is so low on heavy use that it borders on irrelevant data.

Tikkas are very well known, with very large data, and take advantage of the current best overall QC process for a “mass produced” bolt action rifle. This is from action/chambering, to barrel construction, to barrel stress relieving process, guns shot in over pressure chambers, shot for function/accuracy. Etc. before ever leaving Finland.

Folks who buy the following, and set them up properly, have had more big game success than any other combination I’ve seen…

.Tikka in 223, 243, or 6.5 CM ensure 8 twist barrel.

.Rokstok. It’s worth it in all facets. I hate shooting guns that don’t have rokstoks now.

.SWFA Fixed 6 with MIL Quad Reticle.

.UM Tikka Rings.

It’s the point and shoot, no frills, no fuss, big game killing machine.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Just saw that this is a nearly year old thread that was revived and the OP hasn’t even logged in since December. My apologies.

 

[longrangelead]

Since we're talking about it, I took the barrel off mine to find out.

It appears to be 28mmx1.00 metric. simple flat face breech to action interface w/recessed bolt.

This barrel was MAYBE 75 lbs to break loose. I set up for a fight and as soon as I began to lean on it, it popped and spun right off. Pic is as it came off. Maybe a dab of thread locker but zero galling.



If anyone wants to do a Sauer build, I'm your huckleberry!

 

[Formidilosus]

Since we're talking about it, I took the barrel off mine to find out.

It appears to be 28mmx1.00 metric. simple flat face breech to action interface w/recessed bolt.

This barrel was MAYBE 75 lbs to break loose. I set up for a fight and as soon as I began to lean on it, it popped and spun right off. Pic is as it came off. Maybe a dab of thread locker but zero galling.

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If anyone wants to do a Sauer build, I'm your huckleberry!

Oh. Here’s my shocked face….

 

[Svivian]

Since we're talking about it, I took the barrel off mine to find out.

It appears to be 28mmx1.00 metric. simple flat face breech to action interface w/recessed bolt.

This barrel was MAYBE 75 lbs to break loose. I set up for a fight and as soon as I began to lean on it, it popped and spun right off. Pic is as it came off. Maybe a dab of thread locker but zero galling.

View attachment 923739
View attachment 923740
If anyone wants to do a Sauer build, I'm your huckleberry!

Boy howdy you’ll have that market cornered in no time!