Sauer 100 - Talk me out of it

[xsn10s]

And I made sure to question her about round count. They have no round count in the warranty. Just the duration of time. I even mentioned that say on an overbore rifle the barrel could be toast after 2k rounds, it made no difference. They will replace as long as the rifle wasn't abused say like dropped from three stories or ran over. And if the rifle was within the ten year period for the original owner.

 

[xsn10s]

Not really a big deal if the triggers are as good as people say. Just buy one set up the way you want it. I'm not really liking the barrel twists other than the 6.5 PRC. But if people aren't shooting heavy bullets for cartridge not an issue. Just my personal choice. I shoot as much as I can so unless it was a long lasting cartridge like a 308 Win I'd pass and get something I can rebarrel.

 

[hibernation]

Only issue I've seen with the Sauer 100 is that mine has a very high ejection angle. I had a hard time using the Maven RS1.2 on there, shells would often hit the windage knob and sometimes bounce back into the chamber. Mounting in a different position may fix that but I couldn't seem to find a spot that completely eliminated it while still working for eye relief for me.

 

[S-3 ranch]

The rep did say they had a "fine" thread that will most likely get stripped while removal. I didn't go into it with her.

But there is some good news about the Sauer 100. The have a sub moa or moa guarantee for the original owner for ten years from purchase. You have to have proof of purchase, you cannot have altered the rifle, and it can't show abuse. You have to ship it to them on your dime. They have their gunsmiths test it and if it doesn't shoot they replace the rifle. Then they ship it back to you at their cost. So if anyone purchases a Sauer I'd suggest registering the warranty right away. Otherwise you'll have to show proof of purchase. I'd probably save the receipt just in case.

I’m suspicious of those guarantees, my friends wife has a CVA ? ( could be a different brand) that throws a flyer every 3-4 shots, they sent it back , and were sent back the gun and a target with about 20 shots and a note that it’s in spec
He is a Olympic shooter ( pretty great shooter) , I’m not bad myself
We shot it in every way possible ( bagged in, bipod, lead sled )
And never got better than 1 1/2 + with five shots, do a 20shot + average and it’s ragged surrounded with the flyers , I think this is how they get such a guaranteed rifle?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I’m suspicious of those guarantees, my friends wife has a CVA ? ( could be a different brand) that throws a flyer every 3-4 shots, they sent it back , and were sent back the gun and a target with about 20 shots and a note that it’s in spec
He is a Olympic shooter ( pretty great shooter) , I’m not bad myself
We shot it in every way possible ( bagged in, bipod, lead sled )
And never got better than 1 1/2 + with five shots, do a 20shot + average and it’s ragged surrounded with the flyers , I think this is how they get such a guaranteed rifle?

My understanding is that the standard for guarantees is a single 3-shot group.


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[xsn10s]

I’m suspicious of those guarantees, my friends wife has a CVA ? ( could be a different brand) that throws a flyer every 3-4 shots, they sent it back , and were sent back the gun and a target with about 20 shots and a note that it’s in spec
He is a Olympic shooter ( pretty great shooter) , I’m not bad myself
We shot it in every way possible ( bagged in, bipod, lead sled )
And never got better than 1 1/2 + with five shots, do a 20shot + average and it’s ragged surrounded with the flyers , I think this is how they get such a guaranteed rifle?

I agree I'm the same way. So for me I'd get something that would last a long time. I guess the 308 win would be fine if a person shot 168gr-175gr bullets.

 

[Formidilosus]

Not really a big deal if the triggers are as good as people say. Just buy one set up the way you want it. I'm not really liking the barrel twists other than the 6.5 PRC. But if people aren't shooting heavy bullets for cartridge not an issue. Just my personal choice. I shoot as much as I can so unless it was a long lasting cartridge like a 308 Win I'd pass and get something I can rebarrel.

Are you going to continue saying the same thing over and over again that is incorrect?

 

[Formidilosus]

issue. Just my personal choice. I shoot as much as I can so unless it was a long lasting cartridge like a 308 Win I'd pass and get something I can rebarrel.

How many barrels do you personally shoot out a year?

 

[xsn10s]

How many barrels do you personally shoot out a year?

Depends on the rifle. I got three needing rebarreling. And my claims are from the factory reps. So if you have rebarreled a rifle then your claims would carry more weight.

 

[Formidilosus]

Depends on the rifle. I got three needing rebarreling. And my claims are from the factory reps. So if you have rebarreled a rifle then your claims would carry more weight.

So you’ve shot out three barrels from start to finish in the last year?

 

[xsn10s]

So you’ve shot out three barrels from start to finish in the last year?

LOL no I said I have three barrels that need replacing. And as a matter of fact those barrels were shot out in a ten year period. Since I'm going to replace the barrels myself I don't have to rely on a factory telling me whether or not they'll do it. I'm not sure why you're bent out of shape. I'm just the messenger of what the factory rep told me. People can call Blaser Group and confirm what I said on here.

 

[xsn10s]

A ten year period would be an apples to apples comparison. And I shoot far less than I used to due to family responsibilities.

 

[xsn10s]

Another test would be to find a smith that would replace the barrel if it doesn't qualify for the warranty/ guarantee. That smith should post his/ her price as they would have the market cornered.

 

[vonb]

The triggers are as good as a Tikka in my opinion. My M12 Impact came from the factory set at 2 lbs even.

 

[Formidilosus]

LOL no I said I have three barrels that need replacing. And as a matter of fact those barrels were shot out in a ten year period.

So you don’t actually shoot barrels out.. why does this concern you? The 100 is sub $500 now. Usually is a $700 rifle. If it took me 10 years to wear a barrel out, I wouldn’t be worried about wearing barrels out.

Since I'm going to replace the barrels myself I don't have to rely on a factory telling me whether or not they'll do it. I'm not sure why you're bent out of shape. I'm just the messenger of what the factory rep told me. People can call Blaser Group and confirm what I said on here.

Not bent out of shape. Just wondering why you keep repeating the same thing over and over, when it’s not true. The reps you talk to at Blazer have most likely never shot a single round from a Sauer 100, let alone have any clue how it works.

 

[Formidilosus]

The triggers are as good as a Tikka in my opinion. My M12 Impact came from the factory set at 2 lbs even.

The trigger feel is better than Tikka. I greatly prefer the wider shoe of the Sauer 100.

 

[xsn10s]

Not bent out of shape. Just wondering why you keep repeating the same thing over and over, when it’s not true. The reps you talk to at Blazer have most likely never shot a single round from a Sauer 100, let alone have any clue how it works.

What I said is directly from the reps. Whether or not they shot the rifles is irrelevant. What is relevant is what the buyer of Sauer rifles can expect. Now if a person doesn't shoot much or is never going to rebarrel a rifle then it's a mute point. If they like the rifle then they should buy it. But if a person buys a rifle with the thoughts of rebarreling the action then they should know whether they can do that or not. That is my point. So removing the barrel doesn't mean much unless you can cut the chamber or get a smith to do it. There was a guy that owns a machine shop on another forum that said he could do it. I said okay name your price and you'll corner the market. He said it wouldn't be worth his time and it be too cost prohibitive to the rifle owner.

 

[Formidilosus]

The Sauer 100 has two hangups compared to the Tikka T3

1). Does not have an integrated rail

2). In the snow/ice evals, the safety tends to get frozen and cannot be taken off safe. Rifle is still safe and does not fire on its own. This is under extreme, extreme conditions and is not something I would expect for almost anyone.


Other than those two things, and even in spite of them, the Sauer 100 is the only Tikka competitor.

 

[KenLee]

Sauer 100 Rifles - EuroOptic
Relevant link.. got em as low as 499 right now..
-Jake

Do they come with a porta-band to shorten the stock?

 

[SouthPaw]

Is the Sauer 100 6.5cm really a 1:8.7tw barrel as stated on Eurooptic? The 140gr ELDM calls for a 1:8.5 and the 130tmk a 1:8. Any issues observed with stabilizing the good bullets at sea level?