Satellite Texting in the Mountains

I wouldn't be selling Zoleos and In Reaches just yet.

I got a brand new phone specifically for sat texting after my Zoleo shit the bed in October. The sat texting works great, as long as it's not an overcast day, snowing, or cloudy. I realized now I should have just bought an inreach.

The manager at the Verizon store did tell me that it was going to only get better and better though. Pictures and group messaging within a year. Voice calls within 2 years.

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Sold my inreach a year ago when I got tsat added to my phone. Half the price of inreach per month and starlink has 10x the sats up as garmin.

You are correct it will get better Ast mobile, att/vzw NTN partner, finally got a couple sats up after the Blue Origin disaster last year...they used SpaceX Falcon 9 to launch the sats this time...🤣

Non Terrestrial networks are being deployed. The issue is you need a phone that's designed and built to look for sats not towers. The 1500 or so V2sats Starlink has launched this year all have voice/text/and photo capability...just got to get the handsets deployed.
 
I spent 4 days in the bottom of Black Canyon of the Gunnison NP a few days ago. I was shocked that my TMobil phone service with $10 a month additional satellite was able to connect. It's a deep (2400') narrow rock canyon.
 
Using a Pixel 10 on Verizon, it has been hit and miss. Sometimes it's pretty quick, sometimes it takes forever.
Getting it to switch over to satellite can take a minute too, it doesn't always bring satellite up as an option immediately. Even when the phone has been out of service for an hour or more.
 
I have TMobile and it works very well in my area of Idaho. My daughter has Verizon and it isn't anywhere close in comparison with TMobile. Which is kind of funny because Verizon trumps TMobile hands down in regular phone coverage.
 
I have TMobile and it works very well in my area of Idaho. My daughter has Verizon and it isn't anywhere close in comparison with TMobile. Which is kind of funny because Verizon trumps TMobile hands down in regular phone coverage.
In 12-18months we are gonna be comparing "regular" cell coverage to dial up internet.
 
For those "crunchy" people. An EMF blocking sticker on the back of your phone will limit satellite texting. My wife bought me one and would sit right next to my buddy on the mountain. I would struggle to get connection and he would send texts in seconds. Just good to know those stickers do work.
 
It's pretty spotty depending on where I'm at and clear line of sight to the sky.. it disconnects a lot so I have to wait for the satellites to come back around and try to connect and send. I always keep my inreach on me and prefer that.
 
Update on project for SMS/Claude project - it's up and running, so if anyone wants the number to use through satellite messaging to have more or less internet access for outdoor geared things, happy to provide it. This is very much a somewhat useful toy - not some real product.

It gets a little confused, but any feedback welcome, super MVP level - I'll continue to work on it as i find issues and use cases.

Main gotcha I've seen with it so far is if you ask it for weather data, it can do that BUT if you get too specific or ask for long term forecasts, it gets confused, best for broad known location weather and 24 hour forecast - think 'What is weather for Mt. XYZ? Ok to camp?' vs. 'I'll be at 6,000 feet elevation on north side of xyz peak, too windy for a xyz tent?' I'm using budget stuff here, not any sort of real product, so cut it some slack. It also can't have any sort of conversation/memory - so one message = one response. SMS only, due to current 'free' cell provider limitations. It has no error handling, so sometimes you just won't get a response back if things aren't phrased right, to be improved later on some other weekend I get some time.

Things I've used it for so far it's done well with that i've tested so far - Specific location 24 hour forecast // at XYZ altitude and this zero - should my POI be any different? // I ate this small blue berry, was it good or bad? // How much extra weight is packing out the hide vs just meat? // I got a small cut while skinning an animal, what should i do? // What are regulations for number of trout I can keep on XYZ river

I'll be using it mainly for fun, I had to learn some of these tools for work recently. PM if you want number to it.
 
I tried the satellite texting for a bit, worked ok in open areas but was a no-go when I was in a canyon. I decided to go with a Garmin in reach mini for an upcoming sheep hunt in the NWT.
 
Update on project for SMS/Claude project - it's up and running, so if anyone wants the number to use through satellite messaging to have more or less internet access for outdoor geared things, happy to provide it. This is very much a somewhat useful toy - not some real product.

It gets a little confused, but any feedback welcome, super MVP level - I'll continue to work on it as i find issues and use cases.

Main gotcha I've seen with it so far is if you ask it for weather data, it can do that BUT if you get too specific or ask for long term forecasts, it gets confused, best for broad known location weather and 24 hour forecast - think 'What is weather for Mt. XYZ? Ok to camp?' vs. 'I'll be at 6,000 feet elevation on north side of xyz peak, too windy for a xyz tent?' I'm using budget stuff here, not any sort of real product, so cut it some slack. It also can't have any sort of conversation/memory - so one message = one response. SMS only, due to current 'free' cell provider limitations. It has no error handling, so sometimes you just won't get a response back if things aren't phrased right, to be improved later on some other weekend I get some time.

Things I've used it for so far it's done well with that i've tested so far - Specific location 24 hour forecast // at XYZ altitude and this zero - should my POI be any different? // I ate this small blue berry, was it good or bad? // How much extra weight is packing out the hide vs just meat? // I got a small cut while skinning an animal, what should i do? // What are regulations for number of trout I can keep on XYZ river

I'll be using it mainly for fun, I had to learn some of these tools for work recently. PM if you want number to it.
Nice. I remember back in 2006ish time you could text Google from your flip phone and get answers. Crazy that we're not back to that just yet.
 
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