S&B Meta first focal plane

[WKR]

I've heard tell there will be a ffp version of the meta 3-18x42 coming this year...
Anyone have any details on this? Is it just a rumor?

 

[Schaaf]

Only downfall of the scope is the reticle. It would be amazing if they changed it up and made it FFP.

 

[WKR]

Only downfall of the scope is the reticle. It would be amazing if they changed it up and made it FFP.

Agreed
I've heard that was the plan, ffp mil reticle.

 

[ebrownw2]

I received an email a few days ago from S&B announcing this. Yes, they are now making a FFP version with a new reticle. It said they would be available September 2025. I’ll attempt to attach the PDF I received with the product info.

 

[MEdude]

Has there been comment made on cost?

 

[ebrownw2]

The email I received did not contain any pricing info. It was just a new product announcement indicating it was introduced at the SHOT show this week. It did say they were accepting orders for 9/25 delivery so I imagine any S&B dealer can give you the price.

 

[SloppyJ]

Looks legit. 27oz. Wonder what the price tag on that dude is? And delivery of 9/25 leaves no time to get comfortable with it before rifle season.

 

[WKR]

The 2nd focal original version are 3-4k msrp depending on model

I'd assume the ffp will be similar

 

[wind gypsy]

Man, a guys gotta really be a glass snob to go with that over 3 rs1.2s. Seems cool though.

 

[SloppyJ]

Man, a guys gotta really be a glass snob to go with that over 3 rs1.2s. Seems cool though.

Never looked through one but like you, I have a hard time thinking it's twice as good as a NX8 which is my go-to.

 

[sickles107]

I'd pay that for a quality ffp mil scope that checks all the boxes, but only if they made a.. Ehem.. NON ILLUMITATED OPTION PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

 

[wind gypsy]

I'd pay that for a quality ffp mil scope that checks all the boxes, but only if they made a.. Ehem.. NON ILLUMITATED OPTION PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

It seems the illum is intended to support use of a thinner reticle at lower mag based on that pdf posted.

 

[Pronghunter]

Hope the glass is better than the EXOS. My two were meh.

 

[JCMCUBIC]

As a hunter, I will never need 10 mils of windage hold. I will often need to bracket between the outer posts for shots in busy backgrounds and/or low light and/or quick shots. This said with the idea of it being an all around hunting scope, not long range only.

I don't want to depend on illumination...but it's nice to have. ...if...it's extremely dim and only a small point. If I counted correctly, their reticle has 16 different disjointed sections that are illuminated.

For me, the reticle kills it.

 

[Hondo64d]

I received an email a few days ago from S&B announcing this. Yes, they are now making a FFP version with a new reticle. It said they would be available September 2025. I’ll attempt to attach the PDF I received with the product info.

Too bad about the reticle…

John

 

[WKR]

I kinda like the reticle
Except for the Christmas tree portion.

I like that the first mil of wind hold subtends at .2 then transitions to .5. I agree that 10 mils is excessive though.

If they dropped the Christmas tree portion, I think it's a good one. That being said, it's still a heavier scope. I was under the impression it would be the same weight as the original SFP meta which was closer to 24 ounces.

I'd have a tough time picking this over a trij ten mile, since they both have Christmas tree mrad reticles but the trij is a lot lighter.

I'm still looking for the perfect scope and the search continues. I'm done buying NF for now, and the RS 1.2 is decent but I'm not 100% satisfied with them.

 

[ebrownw2]

I’m a tree hater too. Based on the offerings in the marketplace it seems we tree haters are in the minority though.

I have no use for this S&B scope myself for all the same reasons you fellows have mentioned. Weight, reticle, price. The 3-9 Milquad is still my preference despite its shortcomings. That reticle is just great.

 

[Honzi]

Has there been comment made on cost?

 

[Honzi]

As a hunter, I will never need 10 mils of windage hold. I will often need to bracket between the outer posts for shots in busy backgrounds and/or low light and/or quick shots. This said with the idea of it being an all around hunting scope, not long range only.

I don't want to depend on illumination...but it's nice to have. ...if...it's extremely dim and only a small point. If I counted correctly, their reticle has 16 different disjointed sections that are illuminated.

For me, the reticle kills it.

Maybe the thought to have 10 mils of windage is measuring, ranging or movers. But probably 6-7mils would be enough

 

[ZAR EC]

This reticle is about the same thickness as a 6x swfa and almost twice as thick as a nx8 f1 4-32. In my experience thats extremely visible even on low magnification without illumination. 10 mils windage is excessive & won't help with bracketing but as a medium to long scope this reticle should work very well for me. Hopefully the illumination is same as the 6-36 PMII which is daylight bright. My primary hunting acopes are S&B Ultrashorts and this looks like a smaller version so it's very welcome.