S&B Klassik 3-12 vs SHV 3-10

[Zhdrix]

I currently have an SHV on my hunting rig right now but want to upgrade. The SHV would go to my dad. Is the S&B an upgrade or more of a side-grade? Does the S&B compare well to the Maven rs1.2?

 

[Macintosh]

How far do you need to shoot? The S&B Klassik turret is limited to 4.8 mils of travel, and an elevated rail wont help with that, 4.8 is all you can get. That gets most cartridges well past 600 yards. If thats plenty then imo its a very good scope. But if you need more travel it wont work.

 

[Zhdrix]

theoretical max would be 300. Realistically shots would be 50-150. I’d run out of elevation at 700 so the SB wouldn’t be overworked lol

 

[RWT]

I have all 3 scopes you mentioned.
Size/form factor goes to the S&B. It is a slimmer profile than the SHV and Maven
Reticle - Maven wins hand down for me. Then the S&B then SHV. S&B is cleaner but doesn’t have the best wind holds.
Illumination. S&B and a tie between the maven and SHV
Dialing. maven wins with zero stop and exposed turrets. SHV had decent turrets but no stop and S&B is last Not exposed and tiny dial handle.
Glass S&B then Maven then SHV. S&B color POPs compared to the others.

IMO S&B is an upgrade for a general purpose scope over the SHV. If you dial more. Go with the Maven as for me it is an upgrade on features over the SHV.

When I want tough and ugly the SHV wins. It doesn’t do anything spectacular, but does everything well enough to be a good scope.

 

[Zhdrix]

I have all 3 scopes you mentioned.
Size/form factor goes to the S&B. It is a slimmer profile than the SHV and Maven
Reticle - Maven wins hand down for me. Then the S&B then SHV. S&B is cleaner but doesn’t have the best wind holds.
Illumination. S&B and a tie between the maven and SHV
Dialing. maven wins with zero stop and exposed turrets. SHV had decent turrets but no stop and S&B is last Not exposed and tiny dial handle.
Glass S&B then Maven then SHV. S&B color POPs compared to the others.

IMO S&B is an upgrade for a general purpose scope over the SHV. If you dial more. Go with the Maven as for me it is an upgrade on features over the SHV.

When I want tough and ugly the SHV wins. It doesn’t do anything spectacular, but does everything well enough to be a good scope.

Any experience with the Polar line? That’s the only other high end option I was looking at

 

[Macintosh]

…a tie between the maven and SHV
Dialing. maven wins with zero stop and exposed turrets. SHV had decent turrets but no stop and S&B is last Not exposed and tiny dial handle.

I may have misunderstood this, but worth clarifying. The S&B is available both with capped turrets (which it sounds like you had?) AND with an exposed turret. The exposed version is a unique turret, but I’ve found it very useable, with an extremely easy to use zero stop. Given the relatively short range requirement, if you end up wanting an exposed turret its absolutely worth at least a look.

 

[Zhdrix]

I may have misunderstood this, but worth clarifying. The S&B is available both with capped turrets (which it sounds like you had?) AND with an exposed turret. The exposed version is a unique turret, but I’ve found it very useable, with an extremely easy to use zero stop. Given the relatively short range requirement, if you end up wanting an exposed turret its absolutely worth at least a look. View attachment 1009938

the model I’m looking at has the exposed turret. What makes them unique?

 

[Macintosh]

The Klassik turret is unique because it’s impossible to turn more than 4.8mils. So putting it on an elevated rail does not provide more elevation travel, at best it would allow using all 4.8mils. Its simply a different design than other exposed turrets Ive used. If you search this forum there are numerous threads focused on this scope. Other s&b turrets are more similar to the designs other companies use.