Rokstok Lite

[AZ Gator]

What’s the rationale for it? Why did you want it? Also, any thoughts on reduced forend and implications it might have on shootability?

Based on my understanding from the S2H podcast, the texture on the stock is for grip with your rear support hand, not grip for the bag. They said it made a notable difference in controlling the rifle (keeping the scope on/near your target) when cycling the action with just the rear hand supporting the rifle (reloading after a field shot).

 

[HNTR918]

In for a rokstock for an 84l


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Number 38 right there for Kimber RS lite!

 

[RK93]

Number 38 right there for Kimber RS lite!

Make that 39

 

[IrkedCitizen]

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[passinggas33]

Anybody have just an arca out front on the cut out part? Or does everybody have some sort of a combination?

 

[IrkedCitizen]

I have trinity rails but am thinking about switching to just picatinny or Spartan/picatinny

 

[S.Clancy]

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Thread 'Rokstok Lite Kimber Edition'

Yesterday at 10:47 AM

Who wants one...

• S.Clancy
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• Forum: Firearms

For us Kimber degenerates....

 

[passinggas33]

I have trinity rails but am thinking about switching to just picatinny or Spartan/picatinny

I know I started another thread about this, but I wish somebody would make a Spartan/arca. I have nothing with picatinny so the trinity is excessive for me.

 

[IrkedCitizen]

Picatinny clamps are lighter and lock up better than ARCA clamps IMO. The ARCA on the trinity leaves very little Picatinny to utilize

 

[passinggas33]

Picatinny clamps are lighter and lock up better than ARCA clamps IMO. The ARCA on the trinity leaves very little Picatinny to utilize

Completely understandable. I just have arca on all of my chassis guns so everything got transferred over to arca. So going back for one gun would be a bit silly for me. But I know for many others it works great.

 

[PBBananaHammock]

@longrangelead or @Unknown Munitions apologies if this has been covered already.

On the Rokstok Lite, what is the largest barrel channel that still allows for a QD sling socket to be installed at the forward-most point of the forend on the side?

For reference, viewing the rifle down the muzzle, barrel at the 12 o’clock position, I’m looking to place the QD socket at the 3 o’clock position.

Is this channel sizing requirement consistent between wood and carbon fiber?

 

[longrangelead]

@longrangelead or @Unknown Munitions apologies if this has been covered already.

On the Rokstok Lite, what is the largest barrel channel that still allows for a QD sling socket to be installed at the forward-most point of the forend on the side?

For reference, viewing the rifle down the muzzle, barrel at the 12 o’clock position, I’m looking to place the QD socket at the 3 o’clock position.

Is this channel sizing requirement consistent between wood and carbon fiber?

I can only speak to the wood stocks.
A heavy sporter, or T3X + 1 dead cat is as big as still leaves enough wood for accessories.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

What’s the rationale for it? Why did you want it? Also, any thoughts on reduced forend and implications it might have on shootability?

For field shooting and hunting shots, lots of folks want their hand "under" or "squeezing" the rear bag instead of their off hand controlling the gun through the shot process.

This is something I started teaching over 15 years ago for guys who wanted to learn general "hunting shooting" fundamentals which was followed up with live target fire (varmint hunting).

In varmint hunting, you are constantly shooting, racking, moving to a new target, and listening to your spotter for call outs. This is 100's of engagements on small moving targets in rolling hills/canyons in a single morning. When you take guys who have learned to properly control the rear of the gun with their off hand, versus guys who "bag ride" the difference in kill count and shooting ability is stark.

This doesn't at all mean that guys can't make good hits on animals at range using other rear bag methods, it's more about fundamentals, consistency shot to shot, controlling the gun, etc.

Benefits in no particular order...

.More control of the gun
.Faster and more controlled racking of next round
.Improves shooter ability to stay on target during recoil for feedback on target or ground near target
.Improves the common desires for "too much" or "too little" face pressure on stock
.Improves spotting of shots
.Vast improvements in moving body and gun to next target
.Micro adjustments with hand controlling gun versus hand under or squeezing bag are more reliable/repeatable.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Curious your take, in the correct use of a rear bag. Always trying to improve skills.

Meant to quote this one in the above post sorry...

For field shooting and hunting shots, lots of folks want their hand "under" or "squeezing" the rear bag instead of their off hand controlling the gun through the shot process.

This is something I started teaching over 15 years ago for guys who wanted to learn general "hunting shooting" fundamentals which was followed up with live target fire (varmint hunting).

In varmint hunting, you are constantly shooting, racking, moving to a new target, and listening to your spotter for call outs. This is 100's of engagements on small moving targets in rolling hills/canyons in a single morning. When you take guys who have learned to properly control the rear of the gun with their off hand, versus guys who "bag ride" the difference in kill count and shooting ability is stark.

This doesn't at all mean that guys can't make good hits on animals at range using other rear bag methods, it's more about fundamentals, consistency shot to shot, controlling the gun, etc.

Benefits in no particular order...

.More control of the gun
.Faster and more controlled racking of next round
.Improves shooter ability to stay on target during recoil for feedback on target or ground near target
.Improves the common desires for "too much" or "too little" face pressure on stock
.Improves spotting of shots
.Vast improvements in moving body and gun to next target
.Micro adjustments with hand controlling gun versus hand under or squeezing bag are more reliable/repeatable.

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[Timjohnson11]

Meant to quote this one in the above post sorry...

For field shooting and hunting shots, lots of folks want their hand "under" or "squeezing" the rear bag instead of their off hand controlling the gun through the shot process.

This is something I started teaching over 15 years ago for guys who wanted to learn general "hunting shooting" fundamentals which was followed up with live target fire (varmint hunting).

In varmint hunting, you are constantly shooting, racking, moving to a new target, and listening to your spotter for call outs. This is 100's of engagements on small moving targets in rolling hills/canyons in a single morning. When you take guys who have learned to properly control the rear of the gun with their off hand, versus guys who "bag ride" the difference in kill count and shooting ability is stark.

This doesn't at all mean that guys can't make good hits on animals at range using other rear bag methods, it's more about fundamentals, consistency shot to shot, controlling the gun, etc.

Benefits in no particular order...

.More control of the gun
.Faster and more controlled racking of next round
.Improves shooter ability to stay on target during recoil for feedback on target or ground near target
.Improves the common desires for "too much" or "too little" face pressure on stock
.Improves spotting of shots
.Vast improvements in moving body and gun to next target
.Micro adjustments with hand controlling gun versus hand under or squeezing bag are more reliable/repeatable.

​

this is all great, thank you for taking the time here.

 

[6.5x284]

Why is the mold any different for the Kimber? Are these not flat tops being inlet on a seperate machine? I should probably research. I assumed these were all made as a blank and inlet after the fact for the weapon system.


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[Formidilosus]

Why is the mold any different for the Kimber? Are these not flat tops being inlet on a seperate machine? I should probably research. I assumed these were all made as a blank and inlet after the fact for the weapon system.


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No. Each action (mostly) requires it own mold to keep the deminsions correct. You are correct that lots of manufacturers have one mold and then inlet everything else into that- which is why they are all over the place with trigger reach, etc.

 

[PathFinder]

Kimbers can probably be made on the R700 SA mold, unless they want to shrink the stock around the smaller receiver to shave weight. The inlets are very similar.

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[nephewjephew]

I can only speak to the wood stocks.
A heavy sporter, or T3X + 1 dead cat is as big as still leaves enough wood for accessories.

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Does that size leave enough room for the recessed spartan adapter too? To add on to that, that size is enough to have both the spartan and QD?