This is a catch and release. I am switching back to a lumbar pack for bowhunting and thought this would be perfect but it puts pressure on a bulging disc and I can't use it. My loss is your gain. These are very nice packs on par with Bison Gear. This one has a couple minor dirt stains but no damage. Quiet wolfskin ASAT. Quite large and comfortable with a good pocket layout. $100 shipped priority or trade for a Seek Outside Merlin.