Thanks Cluggins I appreciate the reply. I think I am leaning towards the sig sauer. I think theirs is made in the Phillipines or atleast the entry level glass is. Just need a affordable scope with illuminated reticle. We will see how it goes!I bought a Riton a few years back. Glass is good, but it is way below the advertised eye relief. So far it has behaved properly during the minimal adjusting I have done. I'll never give them another chance. A lot of Riton's lower end stuff is made in China.