Ring torque- Swarovski vs DNZ

[Brewski]

I am happy to report that after zeroing I have shot at and recovered all 23 hogs and 2 deer, without any scope or ring adjustments. However I will probably use sportsmatch on my next tikka. Here is my 2020 Texas buck.

 

[zion zig zag]

I am happy to report that after zeroing I have shot at and recovered all 23 hogs and 2 deer, without any scope or ring adjustments. However I will probably use sportsmatch on my next tikka. Here is my 2020 Texas buck.

Curious why you'd switch to sportsmatch?

 

[Ravenk]

I used 35 in. lb. on my Swaro Z5 with DNZ game reapers and I've not had any issues.
You must try to lap all rings to make better contact and not damage your scope. All the best!!

 

[Steve from GA]

I have a DNZ game reaper on a Tikka T3X 30-06 with a Leupold scope. I originally torques the rings to 18/in lbs, and after a long shooting session, some of the screws were loose. I have since gone up to 25/in lbs, and they seem to be holding well. Out of sheer paranoia, I do periodically check them with my torque wrench, but they seem to be staying tight.

 

[SomeJackassOnAForum]

I used 35 in. lb. on my Swaro Z5 with DNZ game reapers and I've not had any issues.
You must try to lap all rings to make better contact and not damage your scope. All the best!!

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• Can I lap Talley mounts?

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Lapping rings is unnecessary, voids any warranty present on the rings, and can potentially change the torque spec of the ring. Please stop encouraging this pointless behavior!

 

[zion zig zag]

I have a DNZ game reaper on a Tikka T3X 30-06 with a Leupold scope. I originally torques the rings to 18/in lbs, and after a long shooting session, some of the screws were loose. I have since gone up to 25/in lbs, and they seem to be holding well. Out of sheer paranoia, I do periodically check them with my torque wrench, but they seem to be staying tight.

Maybe I'll stick to Sportsmatch. I don't really want to worry about checking torque often.
And I'm not super excited about doubling the maximum torque recommended from the scope manufacturer.

 

[Truaxdw]

I use dnz mounts, I torque to the specs on the package. 30 in-lbs for steel receivers and 25 in-lbs for the rings. In my experience no damage to the tube or movement once mounted.

 

[lskok]

I have several rifles that I have the game reaper on. I did 35 in/lbs, but these numbers don't mean anything if you don't have a properly calibrated torque wrench.

 

[Short Track]

Any updates to this ???
I have used DNZ mounts in the past, but never used a torque wrench...

 

[Brewski]

Any updates to this ???
I have used DNZ mounts in the past, but never used a torque wrench...

Torqued to 17 with blue locktight in 2020. Since then the rifle has been dropped, rode in atv gun racks or rested on truck window sill for many rough road miles, checked baggage through six airports, 120+ hunting shots, borrowed and abused by other hunters, in all weather conditions, and the POI hasn't shifted at all. The setup works and I'm not changing anything until the barrel wears out.
Swarovski scope is excellent, great in low light.

 

[Bcoonce117]

I love these rings. Have them on 4 rifles. All rifles torqued properly to 25lbs as long as my torque wrench is correct lol. One is a 7mm rem mag with a vortex viper hs or, no muzzle break and not one issue yet. REM mag has Been shot over 100 times. The other guns all have around 60 shots and no movement either.

 

[yogi]

Short track, what caliber were you shooting ? Thank you
Im having same quandary wanting to use dnz on new 300 wsm.
Vortex screams low ring torque...

 

[yogi]

Torqued to 17 with blue locktight in 2020. Since then the rifle has been dropped, rode in atv gun racks or rested on truck window sill for many rough road miles, checked baggage through six airports, 120+ hunting shots, borrowed and abused by other hunters, in all weather conditions, and the POI hasn't shifted at all. The setup works and I'm not changing anything until the barrel wears out.
Swarovski scope is excellent, great in low light.

What caliber were you shooting ?

 

[TaperPin]

I find it interesting that ring makers have convinced so many that their machining, the machining of the base, and machining of the receiver all stacked together are magically good enough that they align perfectly. They don’t, never have and never will.

It’s one of those things that if you have to ask about it, you probably shouldn’t try it yourself. I’ve lapped for perfect contact in the past, but now I’ll just take down the high spots on maybe 5% of the surface area. That seems to prevent dents from sharp edges.

I put half a drop of polyurethane glue on the bottom half of the rings and that locks them in place, and it doesn’t matter what ring torque is used. On big kicking guns without a little help from glue, good luck with light torque.

Gun companies put specs on things that minimize call backs and product returns. 17 inch pounds keeps Ken and Karen from calling to bitch about a tiny scratch in the tube, not that it’s ideal for keeping things in place. Forms scope tests have covered this well - go back and reread what his real world experiences have been.

 

[Machingeaneer]

Scope manufacturers recommend a low torque value to prevent warranty claims, listen to the ring manufacturer. Torque and actual clamp load (which is what would crush the tube) are not the same. 17 inch lbs on two different thread pitch screws is a different clamp load.

 

[juju]

The thing about DNZ is the ID comes up to perfect. When the rings are gapped correctly, there's no chance to crimp the tube. That's why DNZ sells the gap gauge.

 

[Long Cut]

DNZ Game Reaper on my CVA Scout with SWFA 3-9 scope.

Followed manufacturer recommendations using a Wheeler torque wrench and hasn’t lost zero or “crushed the scope tube” after 2 seasons of abuse; straight axle ATV rides on logging roads, riding in truck beds etc….

They’re not bad mounts, some of y’all need a Xanax or 2.

 

[JDT1982]

I have used DNZ game reapers twice with no issues. Never had to lap and used 35lbs torque. Scopes were a Burris Fullfield and a SWFA fixed power.