Riflescope adjustability factory mess-up?

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I have a scope that I bought and maybe had been on the rifle for 40 shots. Rifle is 30-06 so I'm guessing I would have never thought recoil would be the driver. I sighted it in ran a batch of test loads, went to verify and the gun wouldn't hit in the same area so I put it in the sand bags and got to wondering if the adjustments were actually moving. Upon further inspection I found when I moved the reticle to the right the reticle went the the left and the same for the elevation. I know I have a lifetime warranty on the scope just wondering if anyone else has had this happen?
 

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Typically the direction indicated on the scope changes your POI (Point Of Impact). If you're grouping to the right, you need to move your POI to the LEFT. Make your adjustment X-number of minutes/clicks etc and your group "should" follow. I hope that I'm understanding your question and this helps!
 

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Bushnell messed up the dial on some LRHSi scopes. I have 2 like that....
 

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I have a scope that I bought and maybe had been on the rifle for 40 shots. Rifle is 30-06 so I'm guessing I would have never thought recoil would be the driver. I sighted it in ran a batch of test loads, went to verify and the gun wouldn't hit in the same area so I put it in the sand bags and got to wondering if the adjustments were actually moving. Upon further inspection I found when I moved the reticle to the right the reticle went the the left and the same for the elevation. I know I have a lifetime warranty on the scope just wondering if anyone else has had this happen?



That’s how it works. If you turn the elevation “down” it raises the reticle forcing you to aim lower.
 
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If I am impacting low and follow the indication on the turret that says go this way to adjust it up and it goes down does not seem correct to me. Maybe I am overthinking this but it seems to be going the opposite direction it is supposed to.
 
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You are overthinking it, what others have posted are correct.

Say you’re shooting dead nuts center at any range. Keeping the rifle perfectly still you adjust the scope “down”. If the reticle actually moved down, you would be aiming below the bullseye and would need to adjust to the bullseye by pointing the gun up, which would result in a higher hit for a “down” adjustment.


Ok. I will walk you through what I saw at the range today. I shot a three shot group 2 inches low 1.5 left of where I was aiming to correct this I made these adjustments to what should have brought it up to where I was aiming. I went 6 clicks right and 8 clicks up. Shot again and it was not 4.5 inches low and 3 inches left. I then started wondering what went wrong. So I put it on a rear sand bag and bipods centered the reticle on the target and adjusted the scope in the up direction( which would be made because of a low impact) the reticle went down instead of up, the same for the left right.
 
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adjusted the scope in the up direction( which would be made because of a low impact) the reticle went down instead of up, the same for the left right.

That’s exactly what it is supposed to do.
 

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Ok. I will walk you through what I saw at the range today. I shot a three shot group 2 inches low 1.5 left of where I was aiming to correct this I made these adjustments to what should have brought it up to where I was aiming. I went 6 clicks right and 8 clicks up. Shot again and it was not 4.5 inches low and 3 inches left. I then started wondering what went wrong. So I put it on a rear sand bag and bipods centered the reticle on the target and adjusted the scope in the up direction( which would be made because of a low impact) the reticle went down instead of up, the same for the left right.

That sounds correct. After you saw the reticle move down you would have shifted the entire rifle up to get the reticle back on target shifting your POI up like you intended.
 

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Yep, you can't adjust the rifle POI, you have to adjust the reticle to meet the rifle's POI. So if you're low and to the left, you will be moving POI up and to the right (as marked on the turrets, you will be moving them in the up and right direction) but the reticle has to go down and to the left to meet the rifle's POI.
 

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You move the scope knobs the way you need to go. If you're shooting left turn the knob to the right as indicated on the top of the scope turret knob, usually an arrow pointing to the letter R. If your shooting low turn the knob up as indicated by the arrow on the knob pointing to the letters UP.

Sounds like the OP is adjusting the scope right to me. If your shooting low the standard is to move the turret knob up meaning turning it in the direction it says to go up not what is actually happening inside the scope with the cross hairs.
 

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Anybody else feel like this when trying to explain how a scope's adjustments work?

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I understand how it works. Just don’t believe after making adjustments described above that my bullets should be impacting lower than before making adjustments.
 

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I understand how it works. Just don’t believe after making adjustments described above that my bullets should be impacting lower than before making adjustments.

To be clear, you made the adjustments based on the markings on the scope turrets right? I've turned turrets the wrong way more than once.
 
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To be clear, you made the adjustments based on the markings on the scope turrets right? I've turned turrets the wrong way more than once.

Yes. I made sure of it that cause I thought maybe that was the case.
 

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Yes. I made sure of it that cause I thought maybe that was the case.

Well if that has definitively happened, and you've repeated the exercise to make sure, better call the manufacturer. Can you share with us what scope it is? I'm guessing a Vortex, a Loopy, or a Swaro, in order of confidence?
 
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Well if that has definitively happened, and you've repeated the exercise to make sure, better call the manufacturer. Can you share with us what scope it is? I'm guessing a Vortex, a Loopy, or a Swaro, in order of confidence?

It’s a vortex. Like I said it will be covered by warranty. But I’ve just never had one do this before.
 

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I always try to think of the elevation and windage like a screw. Left loosy righty tighty. If the point of impact of the bullet needs to go up (like in your senerio) then you want to turn the elevation turret counter clockwise (lefty). The screw head will go up and so will your point of impact. Windage act the same.
 
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