Remington 700???

[Brettdag]

Dang... This is hard. So many quality choices to choose from. the Kimber Mountain Ascent seems like the perfect gun. Its a little out of my price range. I'll just have to convince my boss to give me a raise lol. I'm trying to stay somewhat under $1,400. I'm going to sportsmans warehouse and cabelas tomorrow to take a look at some of these. Elkguide, I live just a little bit north of Salem in the Beaverton area.

 

[elkguide]

The Ascent is a great rifle but I can't justify the extra $$$$ for the half a pound you save. All of my Kimber rifles are the plain Montanas and you can find them for around $1000. Now which caliber?????????????

 

[GKPrice]

The Ascent is a great rifle but I can't justify the extra $$$$ for the half a pound you save. All of my Kimber rifles are the plain Montanas and you can find them for around $1000. Now which caliber?????????????

I'm with elkguide on the Kimber, the Montana is enough of a good thing for me

 

[16Bore]

Hard to beat the Montana 84L/M configuration IMO. Never liked the 8400.

 

[GKPrice]

Hard to beat the Montana 84L/M configuration IMO. Never liked the 8400.

Kimber has slimmed down the WSM Montana a bit but the older ones are "fat" feeling to me and just enough heavier to skew the whole process - I worked up loads for 2 84M .308's in 2014 but not until I was forced to rethink my whole shooting technique from the bench, lightweight guns are game changers in more than one way but once I figured out what I was doing wrong and what I wasn't doing at all I was fine, a bit frustrating up to that day though ....
I had an 84L '06 last year that I foolishly sold after working it up to shooting 165 Accubonds (I'll say) sub MOA and I've been so pee'd off at myself since that I know I will be getting another but I'll now wait until I can at least fondle the new Kimber model - TOO MANY CHOICES !

when I used to make at least 2 prairie dog trips a year my varmint rifle of choice was unwaveringly the Rem 700, never have liked them for a hunting rifle though I've tried ..... but that was pre T3 so now there's no way I'd ever go back

 

[Thinkingman]

Having number crunchers involved in choosing which guns to make and gun manufacturing companies being bought as investments to bleed and burn has been a recipe for the demise of many quality firearms.

Everything about the R700 action was created with cheap in mind.
It is all round stock that can easily be turned on a lathe.
Cheap machinery and anybody with a lathe can play amateur gunsmith.
I'd look to Sako if I wanted something 'better' than a Tikka.
Kimber was a total crapshoot a few years back when it came to accuracy. Apparently they upgraded tooling and are more reliable now.

 

[Brettdag]

Unfortunately Kimber doesn't offer a 7mm mag in the Montana.

 

[Brettdag]

After trying them out. I'm pretty sold on the Tikka T3 lite or the Sako A7 roughneck pro. Both good rifles. I like the feel of them.

 

[Brettdag]

Also just a side note. Apparently the Remington 700 line and the Tikka T3 line are both getting retooled. They should come out with the new versions in like May or June.

 

[Elkfitness]

What's being retooled on the 700?

 

[Brettdag]

I'm not exactly sure. I was talking to the Cabela's manager of the gun department and he said that both Tikka and the Remington Model 700 were going through a retooling and that they are expecting the new rifles in May or June or sometime before the season starts. I can't confirm the rumors so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[GKPrice]

Unfortunately Kimber doesn't offer a 7mm mag in the Montana.

YES they do ! Well, in the Mountain Ascent anyway BUT a Montana in 280 AI is as close to the same as a 7mm RM the only way you'd tell the difference is one more "down" and left over powder AND 5lb 10oz

 

[Brettdag]

I was looking at the Kimber Montana today. It was a nice rifle but something just didn't feel right about it. The stock felt a little awkward and I didn't like the feel of the action in general. I know that a lot of people love it and I'm not trying to hate on it. It's a good quality rifle.

 

[Brettdag]

Also can anyone explain the difference between a single set trigger and a single stage trigger?

 

[GKPrice]

Also can anyone explain the difference between a single set trigger and a single stage trigger?

Sounds like you might be listening to a "gun store expert" ..... a single set trigger will function as any other trigger unless you push it forward to "set" it in which case you do that and it's then set with a normally VERY light break - it is not something you would find on the average hunting rifle nor, IMO only, is needed - If I'm wrong in any way someone please correct me ....
a "single stage" trigger just goes off when it is pulled

 

[tstowater]

I believe that a single stage would be contrasted with a two stage trigger. I've only had one two stage trigger and they are definitely different.

A single set trigger would be compared to a double set trigger..... The difference being two triggers on a double set. GK described the single set correctly. I have a CZ527 in a 204 with a set trigger. Handy on a bench shooting prairie dogs.

 

[GKPrice]

I believe that a single stage would be contrasted with a two stage trigger. I've only had one two stage trigger and they are definitely different.

A single set trigger would be compared to a double set trigger..... The difference being two triggers on a double set. GK described the single set correctly. I have a CZ527 in a 204 with a set trigger. Handy on a bench shooting prairie dogs.

Yessir ! that is when a set trigger shines

 

[Brettdag]

Ok thanks for the clarification. I think after reading all the comments and after doing a little more research, I think I'm gonna go with the Tikka t3 lite SS. I think all the rifles mentioned are quality rifles though. Thanks for all of the feedback! Now I need to do a little more reading and find me a good scope. Happy hunting y'all.

-Brett

 

[GKPrice]

Ok thanks for the clarification. I think after reading all the comments and after doing a little more research, I think I'm gonna go with the Tikka t3 lite SS. I think all the rifles mentioned are quality rifles though. Thanks for all of the feedback! Now I need to do a little more reading and find me a good scope. Happy hunting y'all.

-Brett

Is there any choice other than LEUPOLD ??

 

[Thinkingman]

Is there any choice other than LEUPOLD ??

You're baiting me now....