Remington 700???

[16Bore]

Rifles aren't complicated. You can take a Walmart ADL, bed it in a real stock and crush stuff.

 

[GKPrice]

I fully understand the process of cryo treatment. You just said it yourself; "it will not make an inaccurate barrel accurate."

GKPrice, You know as well as I do this would not be the first step to making a rifle a little more accurate. Proper stock, bedding, blueprinting, trigger, and load development should be utilized before trying an expensive treatment that may not help him a bit (why I called it snake oil).

I don't recall saying it would ?? cryo treatment will improve many qualities of the steel from a rifle barrel to an action to a knife blade - apparently you are more focused on arguing than on reading to absorb the information added by others ..... furthermore, cryo tempering is not an "expensive" option but apparently you know all about it already ....

 

[GKPrice]

Rifles aren't complicated. You can take a Walmart ADL, bed it in a real stock and crush stuff.

THAT is a very good point 16Bore -

 

[4ester]

I don't recall saying it would ?? cryo treatment will improve many qualities of the steel from a rifle barrel to an action to a knife blade - apparently you are more focused on arguing than on reading to absorb the information added by others ..... furthermore, cryo tempering is not an "expensive" option but apparently you know all about it already ....

Not interested in arguing at all. But somebody said that I need to educate myself. I was simply stating to the OP that there are better options before trying something that may or may not help his rifle. To a benchrest shooter this may be a viable option to try and gain a few tenths in his score but not to a 1.5" rifle. Done with this thread, we have beaten this horse. Have a great day GKPrice.

 

[16Bore]

I've been round and round with rigs and once I decided that 500 yards was far enough and 3/4 MOA was tight enough, schit got REAL easy.

 

[GKPrice]

I've been round and round with rigs and once I decided that 500 yards was far enough and 3/4 MOA was tight enough, schit got REAL easy.

I think that falls under the "WISDOM" category ...... I'm with you totally

I've also learned that it is "cheaper" to sell a bummer rifle for a $200 loss than to work and stress over it for $400 then set it in the corner AND that "walmart ADL" line of thought often is the best option if I could just see that

 

[16Bore]

Life aint bad playing on the farm team. I think what happens over time is your skills get to a point that rigging can be diminishing returns. Tiger woods doesn't play Nike clubs because they are the "best".

And no sense is worrying about a 700 yard shot you're never going to take either. You might call it wisdom, but it was founded in boredom. Reloading has been a hard one to justify giving up, but if I ever stumble on just the right factory loads, who knows.

In fact, I'm setting up a M70 270 at the moment with the sole purpose of shooting ONE factory load for the day when I really come to my senses. Guys always talk about selling everything and going "one and done". Well, if the O&D rifle is already in the stable, it might get ridden enough that the others ride off into the sunset...


Buuuuuut, that 7 Mag has me by the heals.

 

[tstowater]

I'm not sure how many 700's I have...many more than I wife likely knows that I have. I have one in a Sendero in a 25-06. It is heavy and not designed for carrying very well. Not the best choice as you have already decided. I am not familiar with the SPS but I think that there has been some good advice posted. I like the M70 Winchesters and the Tikkas also. If you want the SPS, be willing to do some work or upgrading if is doesn't shoot up to par. I don't like the stocks on the Tikkas either for what this is worth.

7MM Magnum should be an elk killer and nice open range load. Good luck.

 

[bhylton]

I'm not sure how many 700's I have...many more than I wife likely knows that I have. I have one in a Sendero in a 25-06. It is heavy and not designed for carrying very well. Not the best choice as you have already decided. I am not familiar with the SPS but I think that there has been some good advice posted. I like the M70 Winchesters and the Tikkas also. If you want the SPS, be willing to do some work or upgrading if is doesn't shoot up to par. I don't like the stocks on the Tikkas either for what this is worth.

7MM Magnum should be an elk killer and nice open range load. Good luck.

I agree with what you said about both the sps and the tikka stock. i dont really care for either. whats sealing the deal for me is that even with tikkas stock, they are still GUARANTEED to shoot 1MOA or less with some sort of factory ammo. so it just seems like a no-nonsense, no fuss approach to getting into a good shooting hunting rifle for a fair price.

 

[GKPrice]

Life aint bad playing on the farm team. I think what happens over time is your skills get to a point that rigging can be diminishing returns. Tiger woods doesn't play Nike clubs because they are the "best".

And no sense is worrying about a 700 yard shot you're never going to take either. You might call it wisdom, but it was founded in boredom. Reloading has been a hard one to justify giving up, but if I ever stumble on just the right factory loads, who knows.

In fact, I'm setting up a M70 270 at the moment with the sole purpose of shooting ONE factory load for the day when I really come to my senses. Guys always talk about selling everything and going "one and done". Well, if the O&D rifle is already in the stable, it might get ridden enough that the others ride off into the sunset...


Buuuuuut, that 7 Mag has me by the heals.

that is exactly what I was thinking when I purchased the Tikka T3 superlight 30.06, the next thing I know it's in the shop getting AI'd and HERE I go again .... a tough addiction to kick I've found

 

[Thinkingman]

There was a thread on another site a while ago asking for 'your choice of $1500 hunting rifle'
After 10 or so responses, someone posted:
Quote from: 2labs on November 13, 2015, 08:01:40 PM
Nice of people that suggest Remington's, also include a parts list :tup:
I was trying not to giggle.

 

[16Bore]

Remington will probably discontinue the 700's.

 

[tstowater]

Remington will probably discontinue the 700's.

Having number crunchers involved in choosing which guns to make and gun manufacturing companies being bought as investments to bleed and burn has been a recipe for the demise of many quality firearms.

 

[16Bore]

They're not in business to give them away for sure. Trend is obviously to the bottom these days as it seems good enough is good enough.

 

[6mm Remington]

You might want to look at these two rifles also before you choose.

Winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather SS

Montana Rifle Company Etreme X2

http://montanarifleco.com/?page_id=180

 

[elkguide]

Hi. My name is elkguide and I am a rifle addict.

Over the years I have bought, sold, bartered, traded, repaired, built from scratch, more rifles than I will ever remember. My wife looked in one of the safes a week after it arrived and she "thought there were more rifles and handguns in there than she remembered" from the previous week. I told her that since I didn't upgrade to the model with the light, they must be breeding in there. She didn't laugh but on to the topic.

I could never be a firearms collector because as soon as I get a new specimen, I have to shoot it. The standard for me is that if a rifle isn't accurate, it's not fun. Most of the rifles that I have had in my hands over the years, had their accuracy helped buy a good bedding or floating job. Some needed trigger work or replacement. A few there was no hope for and they went in the next trade lot. What ever you do, I always start with the least expensive option to fix first and then depending on whether I like the rifle I'll move on to the next steps.

I also have my likes. This morning I just made a deal for a Browning A III that is leaving this afternoon. It's a great rifle in 7 mag BUT the Browning bolt is something that I have never been able to get to feel right in my hand when shooting. I love the Remington 700, the Kimber Montana along with the old Sako A II bolt actions but when I reach for my "go to rifle" to head out the door hunting, 9 out of 10 times, I'll grab my old Ruger 77, .300 Win Mag in a Brown Precision fiberglass stock topped with a Swarovski 3X12X56 scope. Not the lightest carry rig nor even the most accurate rifle I own but when I point it at something....... something always seems to fall over.

If I were going to go out today and buy "the gun" I would most likely buy a Kimber Montana. For the money, I don't think you can find any other production rifle to beat it.

 

[GKPrice]

They're not in business to give them away for sure. Trend is obviously to the bottom these days as it seems good enough is good enough.

In particular with the bean counters of whomever owns Remington this month (is it still an envestment group headed by the George Soros family ?) .... ignoring the safety/trigger issue and getting caught didn't appear to help any either AND their quality control suffered badly for quite a while before all that

 

[GKPrice]

Hi. My name is elkguide and I am a rifle addict.

Over the years I have bought, sold, bartered, traded, repaired, built from scratch, more rifles than I will ever remember. My wife looked in one of the safes a week after it arrived and she "thought there were more rifles and handguns in there than she remembered" from the previous week. I told her that since I didn't upgrade to the model with the light, they must be breeding in there. She didn't laugh but on to the topic.

I could never be a firearms collector because as soon as I get a new specimen, I have to shoot it. The standard for me is that if a rifle isn't accurate, it's not fun. Most of the rifles that I have had in my hands over the years, had their accuracy helped buy a good bedding or floating job. Some needed trigger work or replacement. A few there was no hope for and they went in the next trade lot. What ever you do, I always start with the least expensive option to fix first and then depending on whether I like the rifle I'll move on to the next steps.

I also have my likes. This morning I just made a deal for a Browning A III that is leaving this afternoon. It's a great rifle in 7 mag BUT the Browning bolt is something that I have never been able to get to feel right in my hand when shooting. I love the Remington 700, the Kimber Montana along with the old Sako A II bolt actions but when I reach for my "go to rifle" to head out the door hunting, 9 out of 10 times, I'll grab my old Ruger 77, .300 Win Mag in a Brown Precision fiberglass stock topped with a Swarovski 3X12X56 scope. Not the lightest carry rig nor even the most accurate rifle I own but when I point it at something....... something always seems to fall over.

If I were going to go out today and buy "the gun" I would most likely buy a Kimber Montana. For the money, I don't think you can find any other production rifle to beat it.

Not one word of this post is not pure WISDOM .... (just my .2 cents)

 

[16Bore]

I'll see your .2 cents and raise you $1.00.

I've taken the "less is less and equals more" approach. Less rifles, less powder, less bullets, less dies, less time at the bench, less load development, less chasing my ass, equals more time for other stuff....

I'd love another Montana, but have forced myself to 3 BG rigs, one that can never be sold and the other two are just too damn good.


Sorry Mr. Kimber, I tried.....

 

[elkguide]

Not one word of this post is not pure WISDOM .... (just my .2 cents)

I guess that a thank you is in order.

Where abouts in W. Oregon are you? I'll be in Salem area the 13th of February visiting my son and his family.