reloading troubles

philw

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Yes you do need to chamfer the case mouth of new cases. Buy a vld reamer as many of the best new bullets need it. I trim and chamfer all new cases to a uniform lenght and deburr the flash hole. After you have sized , trimmed , chamfered and deburred you should weight sort the brass. Recent winchester brass has been terrible so avoid it. Three out of 50 of the last bag wouldn't fit in the shell holder and almost all had oval primer flash holes.

Hunthard, glad you got your problem worked out. Reloading is like fly-fshing, a whole lot of little details that all add up in the end. You've gotten some good advice here and as you get more experience you'll learn to take it for what it is (one person's opinion). For example, I don't agree with a lot of the post I quoted above. I use Winchester brass all the time, I've gotten bad batches of a few different brands but that doesn't mean they're to be avoided. Likewise, I don't believe new brass needs to be sized, trimmed and chamfered before the first firing, and you only need a vld chamfering tool if you're shooting vld bullets.

Sizing work-hardens brass which is a bad thing, so it's something you want to minimize. There's no need to do anything with new brass other than run it up in your sizing die just enough so that the expander ball goes into the neck to round out any dings. I wait until after my brass is fired once to trim and chamfer the necks; that way I can account for any increase in length that happens with the first firing before I trim it back to the "trim-to" length. I don't de-burr flash holes (the decapping rod takes care of any major burrs) and I don't weight-sort my brass, and a few of my rifles are honest 1/2 MOA shooters. I do measure runout and toss cases that don't seat straight bullets, but that's not something you need to worry about when you're just getting started.

Once your brass is fired, it expands to fit your rifle's chamber. You want to adjust your die so that the body and shoulder of the case is sized as little as possible to avoid working your brass; really the only part you need to size is the neck so you may want to look into neck-sizing dies rather than full-length dies. If you re-load for any length of time you may end up there anyway.

Again, this is just one man's opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
 
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Ya what he said

As for dies I would recommend RCBS at a minimum. If you don't mind or can thrown down the extra cash, go Redding. One step further, if you looking to do precision reloading get the Redding Competition seaters. As stated above this is my opinion, and what works for me.
 

Shrek

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I'm buying lee or forster dies myself now but the rcbs and lyman dies were fine also. I think the lee dies are a little better than the rcbs or lyman but not a whole lot of difference. I don't think you can buy any better dies than the forster dies . The forsters are about three times the price of the lee dies and unless you are shooting long range I don't think they make any difference. I have not used the redding dies myself but their reputation is top shelf. As I don't think you can make any better ammo than I can make with forster dies I can't see paying $150 a set for the redding dies. I use what are now hornady l.o.a guages and I am happy with them. They were stoney point when I got them. The lee trimmer is a shell holder design but at the price they will get you through for hunting ammo. You can make fine hunting ammo with all of them , including the horady dies. It's when you want to push your limits that the differences show through. As philw said , after the first time I shoot them I only neck size. I use the lee collet neck die that you get in the lee three die deluxe set . Lee makes two types of three die sets , one with the collet neck die in a yellow box and one with a crimp die in a red box. I have got the wrong set before myself. Also , all dies will grunt and chatter a little but the hornadys I used would vibrate small tools off the bench !
 
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