Reloading 2.0 Guidance Requested

[Firth]

Well, I'll just have to take your word for that. Flap Sander to "finish a barrel" is something PRS and other competition shooters just wouldn't do, EVER!!

There's a lot of things people do because "that's the way it's always been done". Some of those things hold up under testing and some are shown to be unnecessary. Big Stick takes particular satisfaction in going against the grain on things that have always been done a particular way. He's been posting up itty-bitty groups from hacksawed and otherwise violated barrels for probably two decades. The funny thing is, he has a Manson crowning tool kit.

 

[CatManDo]

Maybe he should be more conventional and use the Manson. His example of using a hacksaw is poor technique and prone to getting others to adapt his no frills ways.

 

[seand]

But why if the flap sander finished crown shoots?

Why are incremental charges “good technique”, because that’s what others do so you just figure it’s correct?

 

[CatManDo]

Come on man; you have 187 posts, you should know something!
As far as incremental charges go; it's called "doing a ladder test" to see if you happen upon a load that shoots great in your rifle; ie. finding a node. Same as changing seating depth.
As far as the flap sander goes, if you're able to get the end of the barrel dead nuts square, no prob. There is such a thing as influencing the bullet path by having an uneven crown. When the bullet leaves the bore there will be uneven pressures on the bullet causing a change in stability.

 

[SDHNTR]

Nodes and seating depth, lol. Gear up those flame retardant panties.

 

[CatManDo]

You're joking, right? I'm surprised you know how to spell retardant.

 

[SDHNTR]

You're joking, right? I'm surprised you know how to spell retardant.

Ha! And don’t call me Shirley!

Keep shooting your delusional nodes and three shot groups. Components are cheap and easy to find.

 

[CatManDo]

You must have me confused with someone else. I don't recall mentioning anything about 3 shot groups or shooting nodes. I simply stated factual information that works otherwise national champ F Class shooters wouldn't do it either.
Grow up Shirley.

 

[BrBa]

I value my hands/face/eyesight more than I value components, so in that regard I'll continue starting low and working up slowly any time I'm working with an unknown, whether that unknown is a new barrel, new components, or the same components from a different lot number. If others think that's foolish or wasteful, or just following "the way it's been done" I don't care. To each their own.

 

[SDHNTR]

I value my hands/face/eyesight more than I value components, so in that regard I'll continue starting low and working up slowly any time I'm working with an unknown, whether that unknown is a new barrel, new components, or the same components from a different lot number. If others think that's foolish or wasteful, or just following "the way it's been done" I don't care. To each their own.

Of course. No one is advising against working up safely. But ladders and nodes and seating depths, bla bla bla. I got better things to do.

 

[CatManDo]

So you DO like to cut steps Shirley; who'd a guessed that.

 

[logem]

The OP was asking about how to get back into reloading economically and simply without having to worry about every detail, and how to accomplish this. It seems that the topic has been covered adequately.

But now the discussion has gotten so off-track that it is a train wreck. I don't post frequent, as seen by my post count, but this thread is atypical of this forum. Usually, questions are answered on-point and with legible sentences by very well experienced, articulate, and respectful people. That's what drew me to this site.

 

[SDHNTR]

The OP was asking about how to get back into reloading economically and simply without having to worry about every detail, and how to accomplish this. It seems that the topic has been covered adequately.

But now the discussion has gotten so off-track that it is a train wreck. I don't post frequent, as seen by my post count, but this thread is atypical of this forum. Usually, questions are answered on-point and with legible sentences by very well experienced, articulate, and respectful people. That's what drew me to this site.

You’re right. And that was actually done. I’ll try too.

Load to find pressure. Kiss, or back off to mag length, and shoot, 10+ shot groups. If you don’t like results, change the powder or the bullet and repeat until you get what you are looking for.

 

[logem]

You’re right. And that was actually done. I’ll try too.

Load to find pressure. Kiss, or back off to mag length, and shoot, 10+ shot groups. If you don’t like results, change the powder or the bullet and repeat until you get what you are looking for.

Agreed. All good suggestions. I will bow out now. Thanks for summarizing.