Red dot on Tikka? Advice needed.

[IBen]

I originally ordered an RMR with the lowest mount to replace/act as iron sights on my 16 inch Tikka. It hasn’t shipped yet and am thinking maybe a close emitter would be better. I already am familiar with the RMR thats why I chose it over the aimpoint Acro. Now Aimpoint also has a duty rds sight for 500.00 with the mount which i was unaware of until now. A t-2 is just too expensive.
An Acro with the arisaka mount is just a little more expensive than the rmr set up.
Any input and experience to sway me one way or the other would be appreciated. It will see about 90 consecutive days of backpack hunting in a very wet area which has me thinking closed emitter. Pictures of the optics and what i am going for with the rifle. I am not sure of the ideal mount height.
This is what Im going for:

 

[ReaptheHeat]

Curious as to what type of hunting this setup is used for, hogs?

 

[9.3koolaid]

Aimpoint made a T2 mount for while that screwed right onto the tikka rail, super low, ideal setup. And you can put any t2 footprint dot on there I'd think. I've had one gathering dust in a closet for a few years now.

Aimpoint Micro H-1,H-2 Mount for Tikka T3

Aimpoint Micro H-1,H-2 Mount for Tikka T3

www.optics-trade.eu

Edited to add: I'd say this mount and a holsun 503 of some flavor would be a great combo. With a factory stock, I'd think you'll want something super low like this

 

[IBen]

Curious as to what type of hunting this setup is used for, hogs?

Just a guide rifle, bear defense and the small chance of a client gun failure or backing up on a wounded running animal.

Aimpoint made a T2 mount for while that screwed right onto the tikka rail, super low, ideal setup. And you can put any t2 footprint dot on there I'd think. I've had one gathering dust in a closet for a few years now.

Aimpoint Micro H-1,H-2 Mount for Tikka T3

Aimpoint Micro H-1,H-2 Mount for Tikka T3

www.optics-trade.eu

Edited to add: I'd say this mount and a holsun 503 of some flavor would be a great combo. With a factory stock, I'd think you'll want something super low like this

Good info. Thanks

 

[ezwy]

Might want to look at the primary arms micoprism. It has an etched reticle so you aren’t stuck with nothing if a battery dies, but for all intents and purposes function as a red dot. Good drop holdovers in the reticle as well. And they come with a bunch of mounting height options. Pretty bombproof as well.

 

[IBen]

Might want to look at the primary arms micoprism. It has an etched reticle so you aren’t stuck with nothing if a battery dies, but for all intents and purposes function as a red dot. Good drop holdovers in the reticle as well. And they come with a bunch of mounting height options. Pretty bombproof as well.

Oh yes thanks for reminding me. I was pondering this option as well. The mounts all looked a little high though if I remember correctly

 

[plebe]

Bear in mind Micro-Prism sights don’t have unlimited eye relief like the red dot sights, so you may not be able to mount one in a good position for you. Whereas the red dot sights (like Aimpoint) offer much more flexibility there.

 

[plebe]

You probably want to have as low of an optical centerline as possible. That might rule out the Duty RDS. Reportedly “due to the new brightness adjustment button design on the Duty RDS, the optic sits roughly .40-.50 inches taller than a T-1/T-2 would sit on the same mount.”

H2s seem to be on sale and might be worth a look.

Innomount makes an Aimpoint micro QD mount for Tikkas, with a 4mm Base Height. Though, it can be hard to import their stuff to the states so I’m not sure if it’s an option or not.

Innomount SSM - Tikka T3 (slight) - Aimpoint Micro

Die zuverlässige Zielfernrohrmontage für eine Tikka T3 und einem Aimpoint Micro oder Holosun Rotpunkt-Visier

www.titanium-gunworks.com

MAK has one as well

MAKugel Aimpoint Micro, Tikka T3

MAKugel Aimpoint Micro, Tikka T3

www.optics-trade.eu

They seem to be on par with the height of Aimpoint’s H2 base:

Micro™ QD Mount for Tikka T3/T3x | Aimpoint

The Aimpoint® Micro™ QD Mount for Tikka T3/T3x is a quick-detach mounting solution designed to attach Micro™ H-1 and Micro™ H-2 red dot sights to Tikka T3 and T3x rifles.

www.aimpoint.com

Here’s the ACRO QD mount from Aimpoint for Tikka:

https://www.aimpoint.com/products/acro-qd-mount-for-tikka-t3-t3x/

So the previously posted micro mount seems to be lowest at 20mm:

Micro™ H-2 2 MOA - Red dot reflex sight with mount for Tikka T3 | Aimpoint

The Aimpoint® Micro™ H-2 2 MOA is a compact and lightweight red dot sight, specifically designed for hunters using the Tikka T3. The included low mount provides a stable and secure installation. Excellent for driveN hunting but also works well for sport shooting.

www.aimpoint.com

 

[Robobiss]

Lot of deer tracking done here. A tikka with a 16” barrel and a red dot would be pretty sweet. I’ve always wanted to try it but have never pulled the trigger on putting one together.

 

[OKHunter84]

I'm curious why you wouldn't pick a rifle with open sights? You could still use a red dot but wouldn't be dead in the water if you had a battery or electronic failure.

 

[RockAndSage]

For a lot of applications I think people make too much out of the open-emitter vulnerabilities, but they are a thing - and in your case, I'd definitely suggest a closed emitter if you go RDS. That said, I'll also +1 going with a Primary Arms microprism. I own and use all three types (open, closed, microprism), and the microprism would be my first choice of the three if you want rugged, fail-safe use with or without batteries. All that said, Aimpoint's T2s are pretty rugged.

 

[IBen]

I'm curious why you wouldn't pick a rifle with open sights? You could still use a red dot but wouldn't be dead in the water if you had a battery or electronic failure.

I have irons on another tikka. They cost about 300 bucks after shipping to and from williams guns sights in MI. They are also heavy compared to rmr, hard to adjust in field compared to rmr, the sharp front sight snags my gear and tries to cut holes in my tent, iron sights are also not as durable as an rmr (front sight breaks easily). If the battery fails I can change it or look through it as a sight in a close encounter

You probably want to have as low of an optical centerline as possible. That might rule out the Duty RDS. Reportedly “due to the new brightness adjustment button design on the Duty RDS, the optic sits roughly .40-.50 inches taller than a T-1/T-2 would sit on the same mount.”

H2s seem to be on sale and might be worth a look.

Innomount makes an Aimpoint micro QD mount for Tikkas, with a 4mm Base Height. Though, it can be hard to import their stuff to the states so I’m not sure if it’s an option or not.

Innomount SSM - Tikka T3 (slight) - Aimpoint Micro

Die zuverlässige Zielfernrohrmontage für eine Tikka T3 und einem Aimpoint Micro oder Holosun Rotpunkt-Visier

www.titanium-gunworks.com

MAK has one as well

MAKugel Aimpoint Micro, Tikka T3

MAKugel Aimpoint Micro, Tikka T3

www.optics-trade.eu

They seem to be on par with the height of Aimpoint’s H2 base:

Micro™ QD Mount for Tikka T3/T3x | Aimpoint

The Aimpoint® Micro™ QD Mount for Tikka T3/T3x is a quick-detach mounting solution designed to attach Micro™ H-1 and Micro™ H-2 red dot sights to Tikka T3 and T3x rifles.

www.aimpoint.com

Here’s the ACRO QD mount from Aimpoint for Tikka:

https://www.aimpoint.com/products/acro-qd-mount-for-tikka-t3-t3x/

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So the previously posted micro mount seems to be lowest at 20mm:

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Micro™ H-2 2 MOA - Red dot reflex sight with mount for Tikka T3 | Aimpoint

The Aimpoint® Micro™ H-2 2 MOA is a compact and lightweight red dot sight, specifically designed for hunters using the Tikka T3. The included low mount provides a stable and secure installation. Excellent for driveN hunting but also works well for sport shooting.

www.aimpoint.com

i did come across that acro mount and tried to find it for sale somewhere but couldn't find a us website.
Those other mounts look good. Aimpoint has a lot more options for tikka.
Now that I am searching these things the algorithm has brought to my attention that the acro has problems fogging up. While an exposed emitter may present a problem at least fogging up wont be one of them.
Looking at these aimpoint tikka mounts, they can mount directly to the bare tikka rail correct? I’m not sure about the trijicon rmr low mount. I’d like to avoid having to get a rail on top of a rail.
I’ll do a little more looking at the micro

 

[9.3koolaid]

I have irons on another tikka. They cost about 300 bucks after shipping to and from williams guns sights in MI. They are also heavy compared to rmr, hard to adjust in field compared to rmr, the sharp front sight snags my gear and tries to cut holes in my tent, iron sights are also not as durable as an rmr (front sight breaks easily). If the battery fails I can change it or look through it as a sight in a close encounter

i did come across that acro mount and tried to find it for sale somewhere but couldn't find a us website.
Those other mounts look good. Aimpoint has a lot more options for tikka.
Now that I am searching these things the algorithm has brought to my attention that the acro has problems fogging up. While an exposed emitter may present a problem at least fogging up wont be one of them.
Looking at these aimpoint tikka mounts, they can mount directly to the bare tikka rail correct? I’m not sure about the trijicon rmr low mount. I’d like to avoid having to get a rail on top of a rail.
I’ll do a little more looking at the micro

Yeah, the aimpoint one clamps to the integral tikka rail.

 

[OKHunter84]

I have irons on another tikka. They cost about 300 bucks after shipping to and from williams guns sights in MI. They are also heavy compared to rmr, hard to adjust in field compared to rmr, the sharp front sight snags my gear and tries to cut holes in my tent, iron sights are also not as durable as an rmr (front sight breaks easily). If the battery fails I can change it or look through it as a sight in a close encounter

i did come across that acro mount and tried to find it for sale somewhere but couldn't find a us website.
Those other mounts look good. Aimpoint has a lot more options for tikka.
Now that I am searching these things the algorithm has brought to my attention that the acro has problems fogging up. While an exposed emitter may present a problem at least fogging up wont be one of them.
Looking at these aimpoint tikka mounts, they can mount directly to the bare tikka rail correct? I’m not sure about the trijicon rmr low mount. I’d like to avoid having to get a rail on top of a rail.
I’ll do a little more looking at the micro

Yeah that all makes sense. $300 for irons sounds pretty steep.

 

[keystone112]

Also keep in mind that as you get older, your eyes aren’t as good. Iron sights are more difficult for me today. Red dots are not a problem at all.

 

[OKHunter84]

Also keep in mind that as you get older, your eyes aren’t as good. Iron sights are more difficult for me today. Red dots are not a problem at all.

I switched to a globe peep sight on my muzzy and it helped a lot.

I've hijacked this guys thread enough

 

[IBen]

Micro® H-2™ Red Dot Reflex Sight - Standard Mount

With a redesigned and reinforced house body, as well as flip-up covers protecting the lenses, the Micro H-2 can withstand all types of environmental conditions.

aimpoint.us

Does anyone know if this will mount directly to the tikka rail? At 4.7 oz it will rival the rmr which based off the pic below will need the picatinny rail with gaps for that protruding part i circled. The rmr mount is 1.2 oz the rmr 1.2, adding in a 2-3 oz rail would make the rmr equal or heavier.

Here is the mount:

Micro™ 11 mm Dovetail mount for Micro™ sights | Aimpoint

The Aimpoint® Micro™ 11 mm Dovetail Mount is a mounting solution designed to attach Micro red dot sights to firearms equipped with 11 mm dovetail grooves on the receiver.

www.aimpoint.com

 

[Ferrulewax]

For a lot of applications I think people make too much out of the open-emitter vulnerabilities, but they are a thing - and in your case, I'd definitely suggest a closed emitter if you go RDS. That said, I'll also +1 going with a Primary Arms microprism. I own and use all three types (open, closed, microprism), and the microprism would be my first choice of the three if you want rugged, fail-safe use with or without batteries. All that said, Aimpoint's T2s are pretty rugged.

Don’t the PA micro prisms have very little eye relief? I had toyed with the idea of putting one on a bolt action at the front end of the action, but it sounds like they need to be right up close to your eye.

 

[RockAndSage]

Don’t the PA micro prisms have very little eye relief? I had toyed with the idea of putting one on a bolt action at the front end of the action, but it sounds like they need to be right up close to your eye.

That's not my experience with them at all, actually. They've got excellent eye-relief, and are very easy to get behind. Not as easy as a red dot, sure, if that's what it was being compared to, but far better than just about any LPVO or common hunting scope.

 

[IBen]

Don’t the PA micro prisms have very little eye relief? I had toyed with the idea of putting one on a bolt action at the front end of the action, but it sounds like they need to be right up close to your eye.

They are also quite heavy compared to micro and rmr