Recommendations - Fierce, Seekins, Bergara

[Matt5266]

Bought a Seekins PH2 7mag last year and am very happy. I own lots of custom rifles too. The Seekins can almost shoot with my RBros 7mag and anybody that owns or has shot an RBros rifle knows that’s saying a lot.

Below pic is the first group I shot with the Seekins at 1005 yards after load development at 100 yds. 3-shots circled in red are mine, the two shots circled in blue were shot by my 12 year old son. 175 ELD-X over 66gr H1000, .020 jump, ADG brass. Velocity right at 2900. Had another great node at 3000 but being my son’s elk rifle for his first big game hunt I went with the softer load. Seekins was very comfortable to carry in the field too.

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I'm currently saving for one as well. That stock color is my favorite!

 

[ElkTycoon]

Here’s the weight of the PH2 without a scope. The scope rail is mounted, and there is no muzzle brake or thread cap. Also a couple pics of the bedding job, and the disassembled bolt. I really like Seekins creative designs. Very well thought out rifle.

 

[Northshorelumber]

Here’s the weight of the PH2 without a scope. The scope rail is mounted, and there is no muzzle brake or thread cap. Also a couple pics of the bedding job, and the disassembled bolt. I really like Seekins creative designs. Very well thought out rifle.

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It looks like you have a Triggertech trigger on your PH2. Did it come that way or did you install a new trigger? Mine came with a Timney trigger.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

It looks like you have a Triggertech trigger on your PH2. Did it come that way or did you install a new trigger? Mine came with a Timney trigger.

My element came with a trigger tech too.

 

[ElkTycoon]

It looks like you have a Triggertech trigger on your PH2. Did it come that way or did you install a new trigger? Mine came with a Timney trigger.

Oh that’s really interesting. At least when I bought my rifle early last year, their website didn’t specify a trigger brand. And it came with that TriggerTech. But now it makes sense why they didn’t specify. I bet they get bulk orders deals from multiple trigger companies. Timney makes a great trigger too.

 

[ElkTycoon]

My element came with a trigger tech too.

how are you liking your Element?

 

[thinhorn_AK]

how are you liking your Element?

So far it seems pretty good. I’ve got an SWFA 3-9 on it right now. I didn’t have any trouble working up a load for it. I’d buy one again for sure.

 

[DW1996]

Bergara no doubt.

 

[grfox92]

Bergara no doubt.

Arguably the worst quality control on the market at this moment.

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[Matt5266]

I had 2 Bergara and they were heavy junk. Both had to go back to the factory for issues then I sold them off.

 

[DW1996]

Arguably the worst quality control on the market at this moment.

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Arguably the worst quality control on the market at this moment.

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I've had probably 5 and have friends with many as well with no QC issues. I think Christianson takes the cake on worst QC on the market.

 

[rileybassman]

I've had probably 5 and have friends with many as well with no QC issues. I think Christianson takes the cake on worst QC on the market.

The handful of recent CAs I've shot/owned/run across have all been better then their Covid era QC. Not saying they are perfect, but friends I know that know the owner have said they have made steps to fix some of the issues they were running in to.

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[ALslamma]

Seekins hands down. Mine likes H1000 and a 212 eldx but it shoots everything else very well also.

does seekins have a MOA guarantee? Wanting a 7 prc and saw that fierce has a 1/2 moa guarantee

 

[AM_Hunter]

does seekins have a MOA guarantee? Wanting a 7 prc and saw that fierce has a 1/2 moa guarantee

Seekins doesn't have an "MOA Guarantee", instead they have a "Shooter Satisfaction Guarantee". Directly from their website:

"The Seekins Shooter Satisfaction Guarantee:


Our customers will be satisfied with their Seekins purchase or we will make every effort necessary to achieve 100% customer satisfaction. Guaranteed.

Coupled with our lifetime repair or replace policy you know that Seekins always has you covered."

Essentially if theres an issue or youre not getting the accuracy you like they will do everything in their power to resolve that issue and if youre still not satisfied with how it shoots or functions they will buy it back from you. IMO thats a lot better than just a numbered MOA guarantee.

 

[AM_Hunter]

Seekins doesn't have an "MOA Guarantee", instead they have a "Shooter Satisfaction Guarantee". Directly from their website:

"The Seekins Shooter Satisfaction Guarantee:


Our customers will be satisfied with their Seekins purchase or we will make every effort necessary to achieve 100% customer satisfaction. Guaranteed.

Coupled with our lifetime repair or replace policy you know that Seekins always has you covered."

Essentially if theres an issue or youre not getting the accuracy you like they will do everything in their power to resolve that issue and if youre still not satisfied with how it shoots or functions they will buy it back from you. IMO thats a lot better than just a numbered MOA guarantee.

Beyond MOA Guarantee

• Ask not what your rifle can do for you, ask [yourself] what you can do with your rifle.
• A gun is only as innovative as the manufacturer, accurate as the optics, and reliable as the shooter. We hold up our end of the deal, and wholeheartedly guarantee that this rifle will suit your needs as a sportsman.
• We refuse to lump our customers into a singular category guaranteeing them 1/2 MOA at 100 yards. The way we look at it, you can’t put a price on accuracy. We recognize and have considered that each of our customer’s demands are unique, and therefore refuse to send a cookie-cutter guarantee out with each new rifle. So long as it’s a Seekins rifle, unrivaled innovation and out of the box precision is our assurance.
• Our Beyond MOA Guarantee is ultimately your satisfaction. If for any reason you are unsatisfied with your rifles performance, we will send you an RMA form, shipping label, and field test the rifle ourselves, because that is nothing short of the Glen Seekins standard. If the rifle carries a defect, we will repair the rifle or replace it.

 

[rileybassman]

I can attest to Seekins QC and support - they will take care of you if you are not satisfied

 

[bmart2622]

MOA guarantees are a joke, dont let that sway your decision