Rebecca Francis kills Giraffe - Antis all worked up

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All I ever think of is how many of these "animal rights activist" eat meat? According to them, animals only have rights until they are hungry enough to eat one. HA!!!!! what a joke!
 

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Not the brightest move, putting it on Facebook. Ricky Gervais needs to go back to Britain, he's not welcome here. I completely detest that idiot.
 
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She shouldn't have defended herself with the argument that the animal was old and what not. Hunting is obviously more than just a sport, but there is an element of "sport" in it that we hunters should not try to justify or deny just because sheltered liberals take offense to the idea. Hunters should always stand up to that argument with dignity. We have a right to enjoy the "sport" of hunting!

You can tell just how removed from the world many of those outraged "liberals" are. The argument many posted: "just let nature take it's course instead of killing a beautiful animal..."
Didn't nature take it's course when the huntress took her trophy? I think humans hunting animals is a perfect example of nature taking it's course. When did these people think we stopped being a part of nature?
 

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She shouldn't have defended herself with the argument that the animal was old and what not. Hunting is obviously more than just a sport, but there is an element of "sport" in it that we hunters should not try to justify or deny just because sheltered liberals take offense to the idea. Hunters should always stand up to that argument with dignity. We have a right to enjoy the "sport" of hunting!

You can tell just how removed from the world many of those outraged "liberals" are. The argument many posted: "just let nature take it's course instead of killing a beautiful animal..."
Didn't nature take it's course when the huntress took her trophy? I think humans hunting animals is a perfect example of nature taking it's course. When did these people think we stopped being a part of nature?

That's a really good post.

I think it's the elitism of liberals, that they're above nature and are too good for it. To put us into the food chain below Safeway or Kroger is to lower themselves below what they think themselves to be.
 

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I think that it's a little too simplistic to say that this is a liberal v conservative thing. I would bet that there are more than a few people upset by this that otherwise identify as conservative, just as there are more than a few people who are not bothered in the slightest by this, that also identify as liberal. Stupidity is non-partisan.
 
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Boy did pete ever nail it for me.

I'm a lifelong hunter, fisherman and general outdoorsman. I know that some people find what I do to be objectionable and even criminal in their minds. So be it. I have never felt the need to glorify, show or otherwise promote myself and my pursuits in a very public way. I would expect the radicals to show up if I did...and that's their right. Ultra-liberals have no lock on crazy ideologies, and there are MORE than enough nut-case conservatives to offset them. Sometimes it bugs me to even identify myself as having conservative values, give the radical conservatives running their yaps and heaping manure on us.

I support RF's right to hunt and show the picture. I think she accomplished what she set out to do; she brought attention to herself. The picture is as much about her as it is about another dead giraffe. She could have posed on a motorcycle, in a restaurant or mud-wrestling and I would have been no more...or less...impressed by it.
 

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The internet does a good job of allowing people to behave badly. That said, I do agree with Steve Rinella that there's more than a small amount of sexism inherent in these incidents. Guys are occasionally the object of this kind of backlash (re Corey Knowlton and the White Rhino auction last year), but the pushback against blond women seems to consistently be more nasty and personal.
 

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Boy did pete ever nail it for me.

I'm a lifelong hunter, fisherman and general outdoorsman. I know that some people find what I do to be objectionable and even criminal in their minds. So be it. I have never felt the need to glorify, show or otherwise promote myself and my pursuits in a very public way. I would expect the radicals to show up if I did...and that's their right. Ultra-liberals have no lock on crazy ideologies, and there are MORE than enough nut-case conservatives to offset them. Sometimes it bugs me to even identify myself as having conservative values, give the radical conservatives running their yaps and heaping manure on us.

I support RF's right to hunt and show the picture. I think she accomplished what she set out to do; she brought attention to herself. The picture is as much about her as it is about another dead giraffe. She could have posed on a motorcycle, in a restaurant or mud-wrestling and I would have been no more...or less...impressed by it.

Very well put. I have been hunting all my life and while I love it more then almost anything else I don't find the need to glorify it. That said, while she was well within her rights to harvest this animal I simply don't agree with it. There are just some animals out there that I find absurd to even pursue. Just because we can doesn't mean we should and posting a picture like that on facebook does absolutely nothing to further our cause. All it does is cause outrage among the ill-informed and those who already have preconcieved notions on what we hunters do.
 

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This whole situation is a prime example of what the social media can do. Not everyone agrees with our hunter mentality and when photos like Rebecca's are seen by the anti hunter groups on a very public site such as Facebook it just gets out of hand. These people pick up these hunter photos and use them to further their causes. Then you get some wanker like Ricky Gervais that has thousands of followers and things get really blown out of proportion. There are hundreds of photos with other hunters, both men and women, with giraffes that they've taken but you may not find them on Facebook. There's just too much information on Facebook and it very easy to use.

I feel sorry for Rebecca because she will be hounded by these bleeding heart animal rights groups for a long time.

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The pose of laying down with a dead giraffe is going to irk a lot of people and she had to know that. This isn't the first time key board tough guys have put death threats against a hunter. If you put this stuff out on social media there is a chance the fringe lunatics are going to say some pretty nasty things. I don't see a problem with posting hunting pics including trophy shots. I think they could be done with a shot that shows respect for the animal and hers doesn't exactly do that. If you don't like hunting you are going to be outraged but hell you didn't like it anyway. It may not be a cut and dry liberal/conservative thing but over all conservatives support hunting more than liberals. Just like more conservatives donate to conservation groups such as RMEF and others while liberals donate more to groups like the Sierra Club. There are always exceptions to the rule and both sides have their fringe nut jobs but lets call a spade a spade. Hunting finds more support in the conservative corner.
 

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There are just some animals out there that I find absurd to even pursue. Just because we can doesn't mean we should

Im sorry i just don't get this attitude at all. Some are acceptable to kill but others not? How is that list formulated? All animals need conservation because habits and ecosystems have changed and nature needs help keeping numbers sustainable. I'm not saying all animals need hunting but the way you feel about the giraffe is how others feel about deer or elk. I do agree when you post pictures like that you SHOULD know to wear the big girl panties because someone will be offended.
 
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Im sorry i just don't get this attitude at all. Some are acceptable to kill but others not? How is that list formulated? All animals need conservation because habits and ecosystems have changed and nature needs help keeping numbers sustainable. I'm not saying all animals need hunting but the way you feel about the giraffe is how others feel about deer or elk. I do agree when you post pictures like that you SHOULD know to wear the big girl panties because someone will be offended.

I agree. Also hunting bull giraffes and bull elephants that are past their prime in Africa accomplishes two things. It provides funding for conservation of the species and helps pay for anti poaching patrols. These animals are past their prime and will die by natural means anyways. It also gives much needed meat to local villages. It is easy to pile on killing animals in Africa until you do some research. Without hunting over there the value of the animal goes down and more are killed by poachers and locals.
 

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Hunting in Africa dictated the need for conservation. The hunting industry brings a lot of money to their economy. If it wasn't for the conservation caused by hunting, many of those animals would have been poached into extinction.
 

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Maybe its a personal thing, but their are no hard and fast rules to how the "list" is formulated. maybe because I am a continent removed I have never had a desire to pursue giraffe or elephants for that matter.
 

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And RF is known for her, what's the word...uncouth photos with the animals she has taken. The black bear in the hat. Standing on a moose. Not all that interesting if you are a big picture thinker. I have seen men pose with their kills in seriously repulsive images that make standing on a dead moose extremely tame. How many of you have dry humped your dead buck and let your buddy film it?

What is alarming to me is the continued persecution of attractive women who hunt. Melissa Bachman and her lion. Texas cheerleader Kendall Jones on her safari. Eva Shockey and her NC black bear. And now Rebecca Francis. It is misogyny of the worst kind and the media is not calling these people out on it.

EDIT: Here is a brief media blurb about the misogyny towards female hunters.
 
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