Rear bag suggestions?

[repins05]

Looking for some rear bag suggestions. Probably going to throw one in my pack. Looking at precision underground at the moment.

 

[hereinaz]

Great question, there are lots of great suggestions and threads. But it can be as personal as Choosing boots and then fitting them.

What is your shooting style, butt stock toe shape, cartridge, use, and ultimate distance?

We have a variety at LS Wild for the back country, and make the Wedge bag for Long Range Only. They vary from about an ounce to a pound or two.

Our popular among Roksliders are the 2-5 Ultralight at 2.5 ounces, the Triple S, and the bags from the Back Country Combo, more traditional shooting bags. www.lswild.com

Most recently, @TimberHunter reached out. We had some conversation and got advice. He chose the Mini Wedge for his application. He hasn’t shot it yet, but sounds like he is excited to try. His thread is here.

Thread 'What Rear Bag for in Field Shooting? '
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/what-rear-bag-for-in-field-shooting.344286/

Feel free to reach out by PM with your cell if you want to talk though your use.

 

[TimberHunter]

Great question, there are lots of great suggestions and threads. But it can be as personal as Choosing boots and then fitting them.

What is your shooting style, butt stock toe shape, cartridge, use, and ultimate distance?

We have a variety at LS Wild for the back country, and make the Wedge bag for Long Range Only. They vary from about an ounce to a pound or two.

Our popular among Roksliders are the 2-5 Ultralight at 2.5 ounces, the Triple S, and the bags from the Back Country Combo, more traditional shooting bags. www.lswild.com

Most recently, @TimberHunter reached out. We had some conversation and got advice. He chose the Mini Wedge for his application. He hasn’t shot it yet, but sounds like he is excited to try. His thread is here.

Thread 'What Rear Bag for in Field Shooting? '
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/what-rear-bag-for-in-field-shooting.344286/

Feel free to reach out by PM with your cell if you want to talk though your use.

Strongly recommend reaching out to hereinaz!

I will report back once I have time with the mini wedge. Should have plenty of practice in the next few weeks


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[sveltri]

I just received my 2-5 this week. Haven’t taken it to the range yet, but a couple dry fires at the house make me think it’s going to be a great lightweight option. The weight to stability is hard for me to wrap my head around, but it seems to excel. Range time will tell.

 

[hereinaz]

I just received my 2-5 this week. Haven’t taken it to the range yet, but a couple dry fires at the house make me think it’s going to be a great lightweight option. The weight to stability is hard for me to wrap my head around, but it seems to excel. Range time will tell.

It took some experimenting, but it gives stability to reduce the wobble about like a typical sized rectangle bag with regular fill. A couple of the things to experiment with is tightening the buckle and then creating a "U" shaped saddle for the stock to sit in.

Its amazing how much stability it can impart for the weight.

The "squishy" factor of the beads on recoil is a tradeoff for stability in recoil. Lighter recoiling rifles don't lose much precision, but higher recoiling rifles can make a shooter scratch his head why the groups don't match the sight picture when they break the shot. Groups can open up because of the bag, if shooter form isn't on point.

For shooters that are used to relying on a heavy bag underneath the stock to support the heavy recoil of a rifle, they might mysteriously start shooting bigger groups even though their wobble is small and the trigger break is clean. It is the same reason shooters who dig their bipods into the ground to heavily load the bipod shoot bigger groups off their backpack and POI changes.

Less support in any portion of the system means the rifle has another way it can move in recoil, which means the shooter's form is even more important.

Probably a good topic for the long range tips.

 

[repins05]

Sent a Pm. Thx

 

[Formidilosus]

Looking for some rear bag suggestions. Probably going to throw one in my pack. Looking at precision underground at the moment.

This is the best I have found for all around field use-

Str8Laced Ultralight Rear Bag

Our first entry into the ultra light rear bag market. We’ve teamed up with Str8Laced Gun Gear to produce their well known and widely accepted lightweight bag under the TAB GEAR line of products. The Str8Laced bag weighs around 7 ounces and measures roughly 8”x6”x3”. There are many different...

www.tabgear.com

They are a lot more “filled” when new, this one is about 8-9 years old, and is much better now that is about 2/3rd full due to the fill getting smushed down.



@hereinaz

Do you make one approx that size that is not filled to the brim?

 

[Lawnboi]

This is why all bags should come with a fill spout.

Iv got a near new precision underground if you’re interested. Never use a rear only bag normally go for a pint sized or schmedium gamechanger.

 

[hereinaz]

This is the best I have found for all around field use-

Str8Laced Ultralight Rear Bag

Our first entry into the ultra light rear bag market. We’ve teamed up with Str8Laced Gun Gear to produce their well known and widely accepted lightweight bag under the TAB GEAR line of products. The Str8Laced bag weighs around 7 ounces and measures roughly 8”x6”x3”. There are many different...

www.tabgear.com

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They are a lot more “filled” when new, this one is about 8-9 years old, and is much better now that is about 2/3rd full due to the fill getting smushed down.



@hereinaz

Do you make one approx that size that is not filled to the brim?

Yes, ours is approximately the same size. I had a bag like yours when I first started shooting, and the full got compressed like that too.

Edited to add that I think they purposely overfill to break in. I remember guys driving trucks on them to break them in…

A significant difference with our Ultralight of that size is that we use a fill that will not break down and compress like the white polystyrene beads. It also does not make the noise when squishing it around.

It is the same fill we use in our Triple S Pillow that I use as a glassing pad, because it doesn’t compress.

Edited to add that if someone wants us to adjust the amount of fill before, we can do that. Or, if it is filled too much we’ll work with you.

Some shooters like more fill than others. It is not unusual for us to accommodate requests.

We don’t have a lot of requests to adjust, but windgypsy makes me think about revisiting if we can.

 

[hereinaz]

2-5 Ultralight Rear Bag

2-5 Ultralight Rear Bag is an ultralight long range shooting bag for use as a rear bag or support bag. Weighing less than Lobo's Garmin watch, this shooting bag should go into every pack or range bag. Backpack and back country hunters love this bag for its versatility with the rifle. Doubling as...

www.lswild.com

 

[TimberHunter]

This is the best I have found for all around field use-

Str8Laced Ultralight Rear Bag

Our first entry into the ultra light rear bag market. We’ve teamed up with Str8Laced Gun Gear to produce their well known and widely accepted lightweight bag under the TAB GEAR line of products. The Str8Laced bag weighs around 7 ounces and measures roughly 8”x6”x3”. There are many different...

www.tabgear.com

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They are a lot more “filled” when new, this one is about 8-9 years old, and is much better now that is about 2/3rd full due to the fill getting smushed down.



@hereinaz

Do you make one approx that size that is not filled to the brim?

Dumb question, I assume you use that as a rear back and apply pressure with your hand to shift the aim point of the rifle?


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[Dobermann]

Dumb question, I assume you use that as a rear back and apply pressure with your hand to shift the aim point of the rifle?


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I'll let Form answer for what he does, but in the meantime, you might find these articles of interest:

Mechanics of the Support Hand and Rear Bag

Sniper's Hide Training Lessons, Precision Rifle Fundamentals of Marksmanship, Long Range Shooting by Experts in their field. Lowlight

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The Taylor was Here Rear Bag

Follow Sniper's Hide and pick up the latest information on all things precision rifle related. Sniper's Hide Training is for the serious tactical marksman.

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[Formidilosus]

Dumb question, I assume you use that as a rear back and apply pressure with your hand to shift the aim point of the rifle?

Correct. Hard/full bags are great from benches and perfectly set up positions, they are a heavy comprise in field positions and less than ideal surfaces.

 

[Alex Genereux]

Yes, ours is approximately the same size. I had a bag like yours when I first started shooting, and the full got compressed like that too.

Edited to add that I think they purposely overfill to break in. I remember guys driving trucks on them to break them in…

A significant difference with our Ultralight of that size is that we use a fill that will not break down and compress like the white polystyrene beads. It also does not make the noise when squishing it around.

It is the same fill we use in our Triple S Pillow that I use as a glassing pad, because it doesn’t compress.

Edited to add that if someone wants us to adjust the amount of fill before, we can do that. Or, if it is filled too much we’ll work with you.

Some shooters like more fill than others. It is not unusual for us to accommodate requests.

We don’t have a lot of requests to adjust, but windgypsy makes me think about revisiting if we can.

If we want a request like 2/3 full how should we let you know? Can I just pm you with order number?

 

[atmat]

Correct. Hard/full bags are great from benches and perfectly set up positions, they are a heavy comprise in field positions and less than ideal surfaces.

You should try @hereinaz bag. Everything I’ve tried from them has been great.

I know they’re making a 1oz bag and I’m excited to try that.

 

[hereinaz]

If we want a request like 2/3 full how should we let you know? Can I just pm you with order number?

Yes, add it to the comments and PM your order number.

 

[hereinaz]

Correct. Hard/full bags are great from benches and perfectly set up positions, they are a heavy comprise in field positions and less than ideal surfaces.

@TimberHunter this applies to our conversation about the difference between rear bags to reduce wobble in the field, and when/where one is favored over the other.

It’s why I answers like I did asking for more details from OP.

For your prone positions in the field on the shots where you have bipod and time and opportunity and extended ranges, the wedge bag is like the bench shots.

I agree with Form about bags in general usage. A floppy light bag you can quickly manipulate while controlling the rifle with the support hand reduces wobble to make the shot within wobble tolerances on game sized targets.

Based on my prior comments between form and me, I think Form is talking about the rear bag for the 95% of shots and 97% of hunters who aren’t doing the long range glassing and shots we discussed. And, I agree with him.

After our conversations, you had a specific use for the wedge rear bag cause you can get prone and take time to maximize the solidity of your position.

That being said, by reducing caliber and recoil and working on my form, I am able to use a floppy rear bag for my long range shots from prone much more effectively.

 

[Alex Genereux]

Yes, add it to the comments and PM your order number.

Perfect thanks! Ordered

 

[hereinaz]

I made a separate post with pics of our current bags we offer for anyone interested.

@atmat I tagged you with more pics of the mini.

 

[dailyherold]

Orange strap variant looks awesome! Might have gotten that on my ranger green if I knew available.