Re-look at the 26 Nosler vs. the 270WSM

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I have been interested in a 26Nosler build for a couple of years now (since they came out). I am a 99% bowhunter but figure if I ever draw an Ibex tag or one of a select few mulie draws then I will go rifle. I used to be a ballistics nut as a kid but for the last 20 years or so outside of work I would rather be shooting my bow, but want a semi-long range rig mostly for the heck of it.

When thinking long range and Ibex/Mulies the 26Nosler was my first runaway choice, however after thinking about this project over time I am not so sure a .270WSM wouldn't be a better selection. The rifle I want to build doesn't have to be model 94 nimble but I don't want a bench gun either. I am thinking a 23-24in tube on the rifle and still up in the air on muzzle break/no break. Generally I dislike breaks and don't really have an issue with rifle recoil. One of my favorite rifles is a .458 Lott, I just make sure the gun weighs enough and common sense is used, however on a lightweight rifle I go back and forth. My point is with a break the recoil of either gun will be so low and so similar I am not sure I could tell a difference.

I do not handload anymore so my ammo comparisons are factory from the 26Nosler LRAB 142gr. from Nosler Ammo advertised at 3300fps. This is from a 26in barrel.

The most direct load I can compare in the 270WSM is the 140gr load moving out at 3200fps out of a 24in barrel.

I have a feeling if both barrels were 23 or 24in then the difference between the two speed wise would be pretty slight. Now BC and SD also factor into a killing equation, but my mind wonders just how much, especially at these weights, speeds and for the animals I am targeting with this gun.

Up until a couple of years ago I shot rifle competition fairly regularly, so I do get that BC plays into bullet flight pretty steadily and as a fan of Capstick and other African authors I do get the SD argument as well, but a lot of my competitions were done with a standard military trigger and sights and our far targets were usually 600yrds iron sights. What this means I guess is that out to that range I am not sure the BC difference of these two rounds would matter or that the SD advantage of the 26Nosler would be real world applicable. I also have an extremely hard time thinking I couldn't get to at least 600yrds of ANY big game animal in the world after bowhunting as many different animals in as many different places as I have. Bow range on some is next to impossible, but 6 football fields away.... well maybe I am just cocky.

The other upside is that the short mag can be housed in a shorter, lighter action which would help starting out before all the whittling tricks start to lower the rifle weight.

Now these are just my thought but would like to hear others if I am off base on my comparisons or why the .270WSM is stacking up pretty good with the 26Nosler is sub 26in barrel rifles.
 
Just get a 30-06 and be done with it.

I know that wasn't one of the choices. Lol

I'm not a fan of brakes, either. If you're not going to reload, ammo is gonna be expensive. Are you set on those two calibers?
 
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Just get a 30-06 and be done with it.

I know that wasn't one of the choices. Lol

I'm not a fan of brakes, either. If you're not going to reload, ammo is gonna be expensive. Are you set on those two calibers?

Lol this kills me! To 600 yds this is actually good advice.. why over think it? Learn to shoot any big game rifle and you're good to go.
 
That's bigass cannons for itty bitty goats and small deer.

Both of them are fairly quick barrel burners that offer no real advantage over their long action counterparts (270 or 6.5x284)

If you think of it you're almost burning a buck a round on barrel life in the 26 nosler.

I'd bring a light handy 243 style rifle in a fast twist for the flor ee duhs and mule deer. The two guides for ibex I know both shoot essentially that, a 6mmbr and a 6x47 lahh poo uhh.

Just my .02 but I think 270wsm and 26 nosler and their ilk are good at catching hunters in the offseason.

Full disclosure my goat gun is a 300 win mag but it's my do all hunting rifle that rides Africa to alaska and back.
 
I think a 26 Nosler uses so much powder you would have a pretty impressive flame thrower with a 24" barrel. Why would you handicap a wildly overbore cartridge with an even shorter barrel. It would be 10x smarter to put a 28" barrel on a 26 Nosler.

Lots of impressive long range stuff being done with the 6.5 X 284; that would fit what you want to do much more IMO.
 
If you are a bowhunter 99% of the time I think you'll have the urge to close the gap to less than 600 yards. If you have to climb hills, having a 24"+ barrel is just a waste packing that extra iron around. It's pretty vanilla, but if you want a nimble rifle that can get the job done with a 22" barrel, get a 270 Win. (I have a 270 WSM and wouldn't be bothered to own another one).
 
I am in the same position as the OP, 99% bowhunting, and on top of that doing it with stickbows and I definitely understand the dilemma. I still love my rifles. I was looking very hard at the 26 Nosler this spring. I decided it is way too much of a good thing and am going with a standard 264 Win. I came across this article that was very interesting:

Head To Head - The 6.5 -284 Norma Vs The .300 Win Mag, By Daniel Lynn
 
The bottom line is get what you want. I bought a Remington Model Seven 7 SAUM with a 22" barrel last year and love it. I reload for it, though. I'm shooting 160 grain Accubonds at 2950 fps with great accuracy, so that makes me happy. Lol

Post a pic of whatever you decide to get.
 
I would really like to find one of the model 7's in the SAUM but can't seem to find one for the life of me.
 
Slow down dude, Noslers marketing department ain't that good. A lowly 7 RM and 162 ELDX will do all your ever going to live long enough to do.


Think 80% results with 20% effort. Life is much easier.
 
And while you're at it, run the numbers and really see what you get for your hard earned dollar. Shit is more similar than different, and most of the difference you'll see is on paper. And I'm not talking targets.
 
I went through this 2 years ago. Primarily a bowhunter but when gun season rolls around and I'm not tagged out I pick up the boomstick. I was using my 30-06 and it worked well for just about everything but wanted something lighter, flatter and faster that wasn't over kill like my 300RUM. The 270WSM caught my eye and after lots of research pulled the trigger on one. I picked up a tikka T3 lite in a 270WSM, put on a lite VX3 4.5-14 CDS, all of Mountain Tacticals tikka goodies, fluted the bolt, muzzle break and had it cerakoted. I love this little gun.

So far I've taken 2 elk, and a moose with it and it has become my go-to do all rifle. It shoots sub MOA all day with Nosler trophy grade factory ammunition and I've wrung steel out to 1000yds with it. I think the longest shot I would take on an elk would be 500yds but deer sized game wouldn't be afraid to shoot further.

The recoil was noticeable but not unbearable by any means. Adding limbsaver recoil pad makes it very shootable, the only reason I put a break on it is when shooting longer ranges its nice to watch impacts and the break makes that possible. By no means is this a custom rifle but its a great starting point for a lightweight mid range mountain rifle and the more I shoot it the more I like it. Once the barrel is shot out it will be getting a PROOF carbon barrel, lighter stock and some Ti components to lighten it up some more...

The only down side I could see is if you're doing a custom build is having problems with the action as a lot of guys report having the steep shoulder hang up on the 270WSM while chambering but that is simple enough to cure. Brass and ammo could be a challenge but I don't see that being any different with the Nosler 26...

Let us know what you decide and post the build. Should be a fun and cool gun.
 
Had a Kimber Montana in 270WSM. Stellar rifle, 7#2oz scoped. Hard to beat for the dough.
 
After loading for and shooting a 26 Nosler quite a bit I have to say that I'm a big fan. Nothing wrong with all the other options mentioned but if you really want a crazy fast deer rifle, the 26 is hard to beat.

The rifle I've been shooting is a Ridgeline with a 26" barrel. It's shooting under .5 moa with 140 Berger VLD's at 3367 fps with no pressure signs.
 
I've shot the 6.5 Creedmoor out to 1k and it's done great. They are MOA all day challenge worthy. I shot two targets back to back (10 groups sub MOA) with one gun. Most of my shooting with it has been from 200-600 yards. If you want a hot rod barrel burner, I'm not sure which is the fairest of them all. I can't keep up with the cool boys! ;)

I think the 26 Nosler is impressive when on paper. But with the cost of ammo and barrel life replacement pro rated, if you are shooting factory ammo, I think it works out to at or better than $5 per trigger pull. Reloading cuts that way down. Maybe in half. And without a doubt the fast 264 can be incredibly accurate. It cost to play though.

With a good range, 6.5 Creedmoor will work. It is still 1,900 FPS at 650 yards. For deer and speed goats, I'll be using it. If you wanted to shoot an elk with a 6.5, the faster cartages will be mow butta I guess... But I'll be using a 7mm Rem Mag for elk.

The new 26 Nosler/ 270 WSM/ (insert newish 264 here)! ... doing what the .264 Win Mag and 264-300 Weatherby have been doing since the 1950s.
 
Or maybe the trick is the 30 Nosler!

So much crap and so little need for it.
 
A .270 WSM with a 140 Nosler AB is a pretty flat shooting combo. I bought one last winter with the intention with shooting that exact bullet in it.

I haven't had a chance to load for it yet. Reading around on some shooting forums, it looks like guys are having a tough time hitting 3200 in a lot of rifles.

My thoughts now are, rebarrel to 7WSM and shoot 160's @ 3000.
 
Don't bother, those two loads are identical except for about 6" less drop in the 270 WSM.
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After loading for and shooting a 26 Nosler quite a bit I have to say that I'm a big fan. Nothing wrong with all the other options mentioned but if you really want a crazy fast deer rifle, the 26 is hard to beat.

The rifle I've been shooting is a Ridgeline with a 26" barrel. It's shooting under .5 moa with 140 Berger VLD's at 3367 fps with no pressure signs.

Pretty close to specs on my 26. It's shooting 140 Bergers at 3280 and right around .33-.35 MOA. It shoots better than the idiot behind the trigger.
 
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