They only use the 650 fill because that's the highest fill they can get that is domestically sourced. If they can find a domestic producer that can do higher fill they said they would use them. All the high fill power down comes from out of the country. Goes against their 100% made in USA mantra.How is their warmth? The 650 duck fill was a concern. I'm looking to see how they stack against other puffy pants you may have owned. Also how was the sizing and fit? Are they true or would you recommend sizing up/down. I would wear them as a mid layer under bibs FYI.
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