PRS scope that passes drop eval?

[Lawnboi]

How many people reading RokSlide and adjust on the fly as you describe? Also, that adjusting on the fly is based on making a great shot, seeing the impact, and making a great correction on the fly (including some mental math). Yeah, I took the classes from the top pros too.

That mule deer or elk may not hang around for that.

That’s a whole different discussion and one of the hardest parts of shooting; seeing your actual impact.

Deer and elk don’t hang around and I’m muc rather just first round a steel target too.

 

[UpNorth89]

I'm not checking my zero several times per day or every day on a hunting trip. If I lean my rifle against a tree and it falls over I don't want to worry about the zero shifting. That's the difference.

 

[alexnelon]

Hitting targets is hitting targets.

Maybe not a big deal to everyone but it is to me. I value the same in a scope be it for hunting or PRS.

Animals are not targets. Targets do not matter as much as animals.

That’s the difference. PRS is a game and losing the game doesn’t hurt anything.

So it’s not crazy or foolish for people playing a game to choose FoV, eyebox, and glass clarity over zero retention when the chances are a hundred times higher that you’ll lose points from not catching trace vs someone running over your gun with a sxs.

 

[Lawnboi]

Animals are not targets. Targets do not matter as much as animals.

That’s the difference. PRS is a game and losing the game doesn’t hurt anything.

So it’s not crazy or foolish for people playing a game to choose FoV, eyebox, and glass clarity over zero retention when the chances are a hundred times higher that you’ll lose points from not catching trace vs someone running over your gun with a sxs.

Dude it’s not as important we get it.

What’s wrong with someone wanting a comp scope that holds zero? It’s an important factor for that as well. Have you shot prs?

People kill big bulls with leupold scopes too.

I have never had the opportunity to re zero my rifle at a match. Not once. That’s why I choose to shoot what I do.

 

[ddowning]

Not that what PRS uses means much, but it is interesting that NF has the same top placements as ZCO and TT.

In the midwest there is, of course, the large zco movement and then the TT guys. There is a massive group that got pissed about the reliability of mid-tier scopes shooting nx8 with mil xt, also a few shooting zeiss s3.

 

[grfox92]

The top PRS guys arent shooting drop test approved scopes. These guns are babied and heavy and dont get dropped. Tracking snd RTZ would be the most important feature for me in a match gun.

All my hunting rifles have SWFA for the sake of reliability.

My PRS gun will likely wear an Arken in the near future.

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[Jordan Smith]

Not that what PRS uses means much, but it is interesting that NF has the same top placements as ZCO and TT.

Also interesting that among the top 4 most popular brands, top-placing competitors are approximately evenly distributed, except for Leupold.

 

[alexnelon]

Also interesting that among the top 4 most popular brands, top-placing competitors are approximately evenly distributed, except for Leupold.

What the pros use is directly correlated with each scope company's marketing budget. NF, March, and Kahles are making a big marketing push this year so I bet we'll see a lot more of those and less ZCO and TT.

Leupold spends a ridiculous amount of money and nobody except Vortex can match them but Vortex seems to prefer to sponsor events and fill up prize tables rather than buying individual shooters.

 

[Hydra6]

Also interesting that among the top 4 most popular brands, top-placing competitors are approximately evenly distributed, except for Leupold.

Leupold's popularity dramatically increased at the offer the Mk5 line with features that appealed to PRS at a relatively attractive price point.

 

[Jordan Smith]

Leupold's popularity dramatically increased at the offer the Mk5 line with features that appealed to PRS at a relatively attractive price point.

For sure. I just find it interesting that top-10 competitors are fairly evenly distributed between TT, ZPO, and NF, with Leupold lagging behind. But, it's a small sample size so not all that meaningful. Interesting, none-the-less.

 

[Hydra6]

For sure. I just find it interesting that top-10 competitors are fairly evenly distributed between TT, ZPO, and NF, with Leupold lagging behind. But, it's a small sample size so not all that meaningful. Interesting, none-the-less.

Top 10 are truly "pros" and use the best optics (or use the optics that sponsor them). Some of it is the "best glass", some is the best reticles. some is the best knobs-etc.

 

[Dobermann]

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Others may have mentioned it, but I'd take those "What the pros use" lists with a grain of salt.

However, one interesting thing to do is to compare this list with those of the past - ten years ago, the 'top 5' included Vortex and Bushnell.

 

[Hydra6]

Others may have mentioned it, but I'd take those "What the pros use" lists with a grain of salt.

However, one interesting thing to do is to compare this list with those of the past - ten years ago, the 'top 5' included Vortex and Bushnell.

I am out on the PRS circuit multiple times per month - the What the Pros Use are legit for my observations. I am skewed to Southeast and Atlantic.

 

[Wiscgunner]

While a drop tested scope might not be REQUIRED for PRS/NRL it certainly does not hurt. What seems to be missing in this conversation is there is a marked difference in quality and therefore return rates (in my experience) between a Strike Eagle and a Razor Gen 2.

Budget scopes are quite a bit different from top tier scopes. Leupold may make some podiums with Mk5's but they are not making any podiums with Freedom models.

I see competitors at just about every match suddenly bomb because of gear. Sometimes its obviously the scope, sometimes the trigger or bolt and sometimes its the "mystery issue" that is likely the scope system or loose parts but often blames on sudden dope changes, bad bullets, or the infamous sudden hurricane force winds.

For me, I shoot competitions to get better as a rifleman for hunting purposes and it has improved me drastically, in large part because I keep that mentality. My rifle is ultralight by PRS standards (12lbs) and I approach every stage as if the steel is as important as an animal. I hunt with tis same rifle. I want more good shots even if that means less shots total. I tell every new shooter they need to decide if they are going to "play the game" and therefore enter the gear race or if they are going to shoot practically.

It is way easier to spot .1-.2 shift if your rifle weighs 30lbs and has training wheel wings and gadgets to keep it from moving in any direction when you pull the trigger. Cut that weight in 1/2 to 1/3 removed the anti-rotation wings, and 15lb sand bags and suddenly you can't see the .1-.2 shift on the fly anymore.

The gear race, in my opinion is great for innovation but makes the competition more of match between rifles than between shooters.

The sport can have 2 different games being played at the same time, just depends on the goals of the shooters involved.

 

[Ruggedsportsman]

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So interestingly enough Nightforce only represents 13% of the top shooters yet has an equal amount of top 10 shooters as ZCO and Tangent Theta. Might be some merit to that

 

[alexnelon]

So interestingly enough Nightforce only represents 13% of the top shooters yet has an equal amount of top 10 shooters as ZCO and Tangent Theta. Might be some merit to that

You’re really grasping at straws, man.