Preferred vane and helical- fixed blade

[Bushwacker44]

What is your preferred vanes?
Currently shooting Bohning x3 and have liked them. My son just got new arrows and wanted to try something different out of curiosity.
He will be using fixed blade, probably Quad exodus, 480ish grain arrow and shooting around 260 fps.
Thanks

 

[Bump79]

X3 steer well. I am a fan of Q2i Fusion II, AAE Airzr 26 & DCA Super Sabres. I've tried a LOT. AAE Talon 3.0 steers very well, probably a good idea if he's in the beginning stages.
With a 3" vane I like a 1d helical
2.8" 1.5d
2" 2d

 

[bowhuntercoop]

I’ve tried dozen and dozens of combos, nothing has ever come close to the steering ability of a fob. All I will use these days outta the compounds.

I was shooting 1.5 inch crimson talon cleavers out to 85 yards yesterday with my fletched. 400 grain arrows going 285 fps and they group amazing. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

 

[realunlucky]

Take a look at this arrow vane testing https://westernhunter.net/information/the-arrow-ballistics-study-results/

Iron Will broadheads also has a vane study-

Arrow and Vane Drag - University of Colorado Study

To develop a scientific understanding of what characteristics produce a higher performing vane on fixed blade broadheads, we sponsored a University of Colorado Boulder study. This report shares a portion of their findings with regards to drag, which they've found to be one of the principal...

ironwilloutfitters.com

Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk

 

[Bump79]

Take a look at this arrow vane testing https://westernhunter.net/information/the-arrow-ballistics-study-results/

Iron Will broadheads also has a vane study-

Arrow and Vane Drag - University of Colorado Study

To develop a scientific understanding of what characteristics produce a higher performing vane on fixed blade broadheads, we sponsored a University of Colorado Boulder study. This report shares a portion of their findings with regards to drag, which they've found to be one of the principal...

ironwilloutfitters.com

Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk

The problem will all these studies is that the treat helical angles set on a jig as all the same. a 2-3d helical on a 2" vane wraps around the shaft wayyyy less than a 3" vane at 2-3d. I just did a X3" vane at 2d helical for a customer and they look WILD. The same setting on a 2" vanes looks about right.

Food for thought.

 

[Cmb213]

AAE max stealth with the AAE jig's right helical, using a grim reaper micro hades broadhead

 

[MDpublic]

3 fletch AAE max stealth with E-Z Fletch Mini Max left helical

 

[aMurderOfCrows]

I had a pile of different vanes on a pile of different arrows and recently stripped them all off and replaced them with the Bohning Black Sky 2.0. Its a thicker, stiffer Blazer vane but still only weighs about 6.2 grains each.

They steer everything very well. Even big 1 1/4 four blades or 1 3/16 3 blade heads. Less than 20 grains for 3 on the back of the arrow and extremely durable.

If I was going away from those, the Flex Fletch 3” silent knight is a great one. I think they’re only about 7.5 grains. 1/2” tall and pretty stiff. Being 3” and with a very thin base you can get quite a bit of helical out of them without a lot of tweeking to your jig.

 

[butcherboy]

I just use blazer vanes, Arizona mini fletching jig, right helical. 482 grain arrow and QAD exodus broadhead. They fly great. I like to keep things simple.

 

[awcopeland]

The problem will all these studies is that the treat helical angles set on a jig as all the same. a 2-3d helical on a 2" vane wraps around the shaft wayyyy less than a 3" vane at 2-3d. I just did a X3" vane at 2d helical for a customer and they look WILD. The same setting on a 2" vanes looks about right.

Food for thought.

Are you suggesting that the studies referred did something unscientific and kept a variable constant?

I could understand if you wish it was done more in depth and tested at 1, 2 & 3 degrees (each as their own independent variable), but to suggest that there is a problem I don’t think is fair.

Sure, a 3” vane will look different than a 2” vane, but you have more control surface to correct fit imperfections. I just put some 3” flex fletch 360x’s on some Victory HLRs with a 2* helical. I had to hold down the tip of the vane for the actual fletching process, but I’ve been super happy with the result so far.

Bottom line, I think a lot of good information can be seen through the referred experiments that gets away from marketing and social media influencer hype (I.e. max stealths with “max helical”)

 

[Shawn_Guinn]

AAE max stealth or hybrids 3 degree helical to the right fly’s everything I put in the front with a little rest adjustment occasionally. Just about any hunting fletch will shoot a fixed head with some tuning to be fair. I play around a lot with arrowsand shot the Australian 3-d printed vanes last year and they worked great and super easy installation other than I threw away there glue and used blue loctite. You can basically customize the height, length and offset or helical. That said I’m. Back to AAE max stealths this season.