POS Leuplold…

[intunegp]

Cute for a 7 year old, but 95% of my posts aren't attempting to convinced anyone of anything. It's an opinion board, and that's what I do. Sorry you got your feelers hurt.

Plenty of hurt feelers in this thread but mine aren't any of them. Sounds like a guilty conscience. I find it all comical. Lots of "oh yeah well look what mine can do" when we all know exactly what it can't do. Both can exist at the same time and nobody wants to acknowledge that.

 

[JGRaider]

Interesting you're so worried about the gear someone else is using, as I couldn't possibly care less. I use my gear alot....a whole lot.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

When you say they lose their zero, by how much are they losing their zero?

Do you do controlled ATV tests weekly?

It depends on the scope and how egregious the trail is. Anywhere from 0.3 to 1 MIL is quite common.

I would definitely NOT call what I do "controlled" in any fashion. It's just going out minimum 3-5 days a week and shooting.

 

[JGRaider]

It depends on the scope and how egregious the trail is. Anywhere from 0.3 to 1 MIL is quite common.

I would definitely NOT call what I do "controlled" in any fashion. It's just going out minimum 3-5 days a week and shooting.

I think I read where you've killed 12 or so big game animals this year? I love it, what have you taken?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I think I read where you've killed 12 or so big game animals this year? I love it, what have you taken?

Yes it was a successful year with kills in Arizona, California, Alaska, Minnesota, and Wyoming. Idaho was in the cards as well but couldn't make it work out this year (cow elk depredation). I wanted to gather as much data as I could using my 22 Creedmoor shooting 80 ELDX's. This was my first season shooting .224 bullets for big game animals. Here's the list from September though December 2024 season...


1. Bull Moose: Yardage: 523. Impact Velocity: 2,180. Shot Position: Seated Supported. Impact Location: What most would call "high shoulder". Distance Traveled After Shot:20-30 feet.

2. Black Bear Boar: Yardage: 110-130 (never ranged). Impact Velocity: 2,900ish. Shot Position: Standing Supported. Impact Location: Mid Body Distance Traveled After Shot: 80-90 yards full sprint before collapsing.

3. Mule Deer Buck: Yardage: 636. Impact Velocity: 2,150. Shot Position: Prone Supported. Impact Location: High Brisket. Distance Travelled After Shot: 180-220 yards tumbling/rolling downhill.

4. Coues Deer Buck (Different Shooter): Yardage: 212. Impact Velocity: 2,720. Shot Position: Seated Unsupported. Impact Location: 1st Shot Neck. Ran 40-60 yards and stumbled but stayed up. 2nd shot broke as it started jogging forward again, impacted rear quarter. Deer dropped and died. Distance Travelled After Shot: 40-60 Yards.

5. Whitetail Doe: Yardage: 203. Impact Velocity: 2,740. Shot Position: Seated Unsupported. Impact Location: 4th Rib Bone. Distance Traveled After Shot: 20 Yards.

6. Whitetail Buck: Yardage: 40-50 (Never Ranged). Impact Velocity: 3,050. Shot Position: Standing Unsupported. Impact Location: Between 4th and 5th rib bones. Distance Traveled After Shot: 0 Yards.

7. Whitetail Buck: Yardage: 404. Impact Velocity: 2,390. Shot Position: Prone Supported. Impact Location:Scapula. Distance Traveled After Shot: 20 Yards.

8. Whitetail Doe: Yardage: 20-30 (Never Ranged). Impact Velocity: 3,070. Shot Position: Standing Unsupported. Impact Location: Quartering Away, 5th and 6th ribs. Distance Traveled After Shot: 110-130 Yards.

9. Whitetail Doe: Yardage: 272. Impact Velocity: 2,610. Shot Position: Seated Unsupported. Impact Location:Between 3rd and 4th rib bones. Distance Traveled After Shot: 120-140 yards.

10. Whitetail Doe (Different Shooter): Yardage: 208. Impact Velocity: 2,740. Shot Position: Kneeling Supported. Impact Location: Forward-Facing Neck (head up smelling us). Distance Traveled After Shot: 0 Yards.

11. Whitetail Doe: Yardage: 510. Impact Velocity: 2,225. Shot Position: Seated Supported. Impact Location: 1 Shot, 5th Rib. Deer ran 60-80 yards and stopped. 2nd Shot, Scapula. Dropped. Distance Traveled After Shot: 60-80 Yards.

12. Whitetail Buck: Yardage 232. Impact Velocity:2,730ish. Shot Position: Standing, supported by tree branch. Impact Location: 3rd Rib. Distance Traveled After Shot: 5-10
Yards.

13. Bull Elk: Yardage: 120ish (never ranged). Impact Velocity: 2,920ish. Shot Position: Kneeling Unsupported. Impact Location:High on the 5th Rib Bone. Exited 5th Rib Bone. Bullet lodged in offside fat/hide. Massive fragmentation, damaged spine, damaged lung, heart was chunked up mess. Distance Travelled After Shot: 0 Yards. Paralyzed. Heavy and labored breathing for around 90 seconds.

 

[JGRaider]

Awesome, nice shooting. I hear those coues make for a small target. Congrats.

 

[fwafwow]

.... but just once I’d like to just one out of all these durable leupold scopes on this forum get tested.

The XYZ branded scopes that have traveled to multiple continents, slain boatloads of animals (some dangerous) and never lost zero are held tightly in their owners' fists. They can not be tested!

 

[JGRaider]

The XYZ branded scopes that have traveled to multiple continents, slain boatloads of animals (some dangerous) and never lost zero are held tightly in their owners' fists. They can not be tested!

Send me $1200 for my time, effort and trouble and I'll send you my VX6 to test.

 

[fwafwow]

Send me $1200 for my time, effort and trouble and I'll send you my VX6 to test.

How did you arrive at $1200?

 

[Afhunter1]

I just don’t know why leupold doesn’t just come out and say something like:

“the drop tests are junk because we build our scopes to a higher quality than that. Obviously, every maker will have an issue occasionally but our scopes are built tough!”

But instead they just kind of ignore them and take the ostrich approach. Wonder why……

Even they know they suck but the money is in doing what they are doing.

 

[Flyjunky]

I just don’t know why leupold doesn’t just come out and say something like:

“the drop tests are junk because we build our scopes to a higher quality than that. Obviously, every maker will have an issue occasionally but our scopes are built tough!”

But instead they just kind of ignore them and take the ostrich approach. Wonder why……

Even they know they suck but the money is in doing what they are doing.

The conventional wisdom is that they don’t have to do anything different because they sell so much already. In my mind I’d think they’d want to sell even more by having a durable product.

If they don’t care about that I guess that says something about their business, idk.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Awesome, nice shooting. I hear those coues make for a small target. Congrats.

Yes sir folks are always amazed when they walk up on a large dog instead of small “deer” (speaking to accurate size comparison).

My avatar photo here is an entire spike buck I packed down for my homie tied to the pack haha.

 

[KenLee]

Since virtually every scope question includes "I’d like to learn to shoot longer range, what are y’all’s thoughts on a scope for these applications?" The quote here is direct from the example posted this afternoon, there's approximately several per week, almost all of which reference "longer range" in some way.

Yep most ask for recommendations for a great dependable low light hunting scope to be able to kill at 100, 200 or 300 yards...then throw in "I'd like to be able to shoot paper or steel out to 600+".
Well Buddy those aren't the same scopes in my world