Planning my first elk hunt (Colorado)

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1. Be in the absolute best "mountain" shape you can be in. Maintain and improve this fitness each year, don't slack off and let it slide each winter. Make your fitness sport specific and this means, lots of walking and hiking. Walk everyday and build your mileage up. Take a longer hike in the woods or nearest mountains each weekend. Go slow, easy and steady though, down time because of injuries does not get you in shape.

2. Get the very best boots you can afford and makes sure your feet can handle high miles in them.

3. Learn to take care of your feet. This means parking the ego and stopping when you start to think you might have a problem. This also follows #1 with all of the walking and hiking, which toughens your feet up. Part of your gear list should be a foot care kit.

4. When it comes to gear, keep it simple, less is more. The less you buy, the more money you save and the less you have to carry. Here is a pretty basic gear list. http://backcountryhunter.net/2013-gear-list/


5. Test everything ahead of time in all weather, know how to use it, what it's strengths and weaknesses are. Don't go on a big hunt with untested gear.

6. Scout as much as you can using the internet, maps, phone calls, etc..

7. Buy once, cry once on gear. Don't work up in increments on gear by settling for less than what you want, just get the good stuff from the start. Listen to the guys that use it and hunt a lot. You will find their posts scattered all over this forum. Luke Moffat, Aron Snyder, Stid and a few others. Stid especially does some amazing write ups on his hunts, gear and his learning experiences. Luke is a serious hardcore bargain hunter and any gear that doesn't cut the grade gets tossed, he doesn't have a single brand loyalty bone in his body. Aron has access to almost anything he wants to try. All three of these guys do some really serious hunting and game killing. Just look for their posts.

8. Take lots and lots of pictures. My biggest regret is not even carrying a camera for most of my years of hunting. Learn to stop and take pics as often as possible. Especially if you live back east and you do a western hunt, you will see country that you don't get to see often, record it. With modern digital cameras and their huge amounts of memory there is no excuse for not taking pictures. I did a trip to South Dakota 4 years ago and took 600 pictures in 10 days. Take multiple shots of each thing because many won't turn out and will get deleted. It is not at all uncommon to take four or six shots of the same thing and end up deleting all but one.

9. Practice your shooting as often as possible with as realistic conditions as possible. When you think you are good, practice some more and keep practicing. So many times I have seen guys get on a really nice animal and miss. When you finally line your sights up on your first bull and he is screaming and trashing everything in sight, your adrenalin is going to be through the roof and you will forget everything you told yourself to remember, practice until the shot is automatic.

10. Have fun. If you want to backpack bivy hunt, then do it. Whatever your dream is, reach for it, don't sell yourself short, but plan carefully and work your ass off.
 
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Thank you for the reply! Lots of good advice there. Don't worry about the picture thing...I have that covered. Very into photography! Just checked out the gear list. Is it just me or is $500-600 a lot for a tent? I've gotten over the sticker shock on packs but still haven't on tents and some sleeping bags for that matter.

If we plan on setting up a basecamp a mile or so from the truck and then hunt from there each day, what setup do most people use? A single tent big enough for two and their gear? Also, should we carry another tent with us each day in case we encounter a lot of elk quite a bit of distance from base so we can sleep closer to them?
 
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I wasn't pointing at the particular gear he is using, just the items themselves, in other words a tent, just not a specific tent.

So much of gear is personal and that can only decided on what you like by trial and error.

Each person should have a shelter of some sort, what that is will be decided by what you are comfortable with. You should always be prepared to spend a night out where ever you might end up for what ever reason. It can be finding a herd of elk, a broken leg or twisted ankle, or you just simply got further away from your main camp than you thought you would.

Which comes back to the using and practicing thing.

The SL-5 is really popular here for it's price/weight/space combination. Hilleberg's are popular for how tough they are in storm conditions. Kifaru and SeekOutside can come with a wood stove for heat and drying wet clothes.

You will get a lot of opinions about gear here, which is the purpose of this forum, the sharing of knowledge, ideas and experience.

How you run your setup will be determined by how far you go in. Personally running a base camp one mile from the truck is kind of pointless. The whole point of back country hunting is to get away from the trailhead and other people.

Two approaches work here, go deep and stay there, or do loops and come back for resupply every few days. The first adds more weight for food, but saves time on walking the same stretch of trail over and over. The second cuts weight, but you do more walking. One advantage of doing the resupply loops is having food or other comforts in the truck that you normally wouldn't carry, like steaks, fold up chairs and cots, bigger tent with a wood stove for drying clothes etc..
 
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follow 241's pointers and you should do well.........but i will add perseverance as everyting will tend not to be roses with elk hunting, there will be highs and lows for sure..........GOOD LUCK!
 

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I did my first western hunt last year and Elkhunter241 is spot on. I wasn't in good enough shape and had tried to get by with a less expensive bag. Both things really detracted from my experience. If I had taken the very good advice about bags I would have saved the $150 I spent on the cheap bag and all the money for the motel I ended up in. Not to mention the gas and travel time. I just fixed the sleeping bag problem last week and was working on the fitness today. Elk hunting is a virulent bug that will make you as excited as you were when you were a kid starting out hunting. It's nothing like hunting whitetails in the east.
 

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I also highly recommend a floorless tent with a wood stove. I can't even begin to describe how much nicer a tent is with a stove !
 

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Thanks for the tent recommendations. Just looked at the SL-5, looks great. Shrek, although we're planning a hunt for Sept. do you think I'll need a stove? I'm not going to say that I'll always hunt for elk in Sept so it might be a good idea to at least get a tent with this option, right?
 
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Two approaches work here, go deep and stay there, or do loops and come back for resupply every few days. The first adds more weight for food, but saves time on walking the same stretch of trail over and over. The second cuts weight, but you do more walking. One advantage of doing the resupply loops is having food or other comforts in the truck that you normally wouldn't carry, like steaks, fold up chairs and cots, bigger tent with a wood stove for drying clothes etc..

I kinda like option #2. Might be a much needed "break." Thanks again for the advice!
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Finch , I can't say you NEED a wood stove but it sure is nice. A floorless tent with the ability to use a stove is a winner imo. Just don't skimp on boots , sleeping bag , and clothes. Most sleeping bags are rated at their survival temp not their comfort temp. Look for a comfort temp rating or go with a top down bag. I just went with a 0º Western Mountaineering bag for late Oct and Nov in Montana. I can't speak for Colorado in Sept. I would certainly err to the warm side though.
 
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Thanks for the tent recommendations. Just looked at the SL-5, looks great. Shrek, although we're planning a hunt for Sept. do you think I'll need a stove? I'm not going to say that I'll always hunt for elk in Sept so it might be a good idea to at least get a tent with this option, right?

You do not need a stove for September hunting. I kicked out of my sleeping bag most of the time this last September because I got too hot.
 

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Thanks for the tent recommendations. Just looked at the SL-5, looks great. Shrek, although we're planning a hunt for Sept. do you think I'll need a stove? I'm not going to say that I'll always hunt for elk in Sept so it might be a good idea to at least get a tent with this option, right?

It depends on where and when you'll be hunting. Last year, the only time I wanted a tent with a stove was the last weekend of September. It was more of a "want vs. need" thing for me though.

Pretty decent deal here with an additional 20% off. http://www.rei.com/product/857767/nemo-pentalite-4-shelter-2013-closeout#descriptionTab
 
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Yeah, that's what I was hoping that I wouldn't need a stove. I've slept on the ground here in Virginia just on my cheap sleeping bag in 30 degrees and was fine.

I'm really looking for a tent with a floor though. I will not only use this tent for my elk hunt but spring and summer overnight fishing trips and turkey hunts. We have tons of ticks here and I'd prefer a barrier between me and them.

My hunting partner is deadset on using a hammock for our hunt. Thoughts?
 

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I run the MSR Hubba 1 person tent. It's a little on the small side but I have had zero issues with it hunting CO at 11000ft. In Early Sept. I wouldn't consider it a 4 season tent but it's a solid 3 season. 2 years ago had 40mph winds with rain and I stayed dry. It's priced fair and it's not all that heavy.
 
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i would realy try to talk him out of the hammock idea unless you dont mind him storing all his gear in your tent and crawling in with you every storm. it either rained hailed or snowed every night last season,not the norm,but can happen again. your shelter is one of the things you just cant afford to skimp on.
 
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i would realy try to talk him out of the hammock idea unless you dont mind him storing all his gear in your tent and crawling in with you every storm. it either rained hailed or snowed every night last season,not the norm,but can happen again. your shelter is one of the things you just cant afford to skimp on.

That's why I've been looking for a 3 man tent just for that reason. Well, I also want one big enough for the wife and I if she'll ever tag along with me camping or what not. I think I've narrowed it down between the BA Fly Creek UL3 or the Copper Spur UL3. Anyone have experience with these?
 
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i can speak for the BA fly creek line,i run the ul2. top notch company,you cant go wrong there. i have no experiance with copper spur,but love my BA.
 
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Well, I think I'm going to go with the Fly Creek 2. I'm sure he'll be fine with whatever sleeping arrangement he comes up with and if it comes down to it, the FC2 will sleep two. I'll just have to charge him a fee. :)
 
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Just came across the Tarptent Double Rainbow. Really like what I see so far.
 
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