Pizza Cutter Tires-Any Regrets?

Jeez my wife runs 10 plays on her 4Runner laufenn 265/75 r16 you guys are harsh and must not hit the gravel often just forest roads. I’ll take reliable over a tad more comfort.

275/70 r18 on my vehicle geolander at4. Hoping to see how it compares to the wild peaks. Done with coopers and Hancook.
 
Thinkingman said:
Sidewall resistance to puncture and tread depth.s
I wouldn't buy them otherwise because they add a lot to the rotational mass and unsprung weight.
Some sizes are only available in a LT/E.
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A few good reasons to run 10 ply on 1/2ton...a few good reasons not to as well. Depends on the purpose/use. If the rig is genuinely off road or typically pushing/exceeding max gvw its certainly warranted. If its mostly a pavement princess its just killing ride and handling for no good reason what so ever.
There is definitely something to be said for durability and puncture resistance...to a degree. Sharp/pointy stuff gets through 10 ply as well, just takes a bit more to get all the way through.
That being said I have a customer that monitors gas wells on a landfill with a few trucks. The tires on those trucks see more abuse and nasty sharp stuff than any even dedicated off road rig. They use up a set of tires about every 3-6 months, sometimes less. By use up I mean so cut up and punctured slime and 15 plugs wont even keep air in them long enough for a days work.
They run exclusively premium brand 10
ply mud or all terrain tires on compact and 1/2 ton trucks. Anything less they don't last a month up there....so I'll say the durability factor is a valid point based on experience in a very harsh environment.
On the other hand, I put 10 ply on my wifes tundra due to that being the only thing available in that particular tire/size I wanted at the time(covid era) and I can't wait to wear them out. Killed the ride and handling on that truck to the point Id take them off now that standard load tires are available in that size...but it doesnt get driven much and she doesnt complain so I'll save the $ for now.
As for tall skinnies, they might look a bit goofy from the front or back, but the functionality of higher ground clearance, narrower track width and more concentrated load distribution for off road use certainly give them a functionality edge especially on western 2 tracks and the like.
 
Jethro said:
Deeper tread depth is not related to tire rating. Can get same tread depth in C and D rated, as E. Dependent on tire model.
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I worry more about that than I do what ply they are. Least I do unless we start talking about a heavier truck.

Its amusing to me, how much of an issue some folks have with just keeping air in their tires :ROFLMAO:
 
Steve300xcw said:
I worry more about that than I do what ply they are. Least I do unless we start talking about a heavier truck.

Its amusing to me, how much of an issue some folks have with just keeping air in their tires :ROFLMAO:
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I’m a 1/2 ton C rated guy. Normal work and play driving I just believe if I hit something that cuts thru 6 plys, good chance it would go thru an extra 4
 
2004 Ford F150 - Cooper Stronghold LT235 / 80R17

I had the same size Cooper ST MAXX on my F150 before wearing them out. I really liked them. They were durable and had great traction. I decided to try the Cooper Stronghold when I replaced the tires. They have great traction and I have had them for over a year now. They served me well during hunting season and year round. Very happy with Coopers and in my opinion I get better traction in all conditions than when I had on 275 size tires on my pickup. I also believe in the E rated tires. Only thing to use in Montana with all the pokey things we have to destroy tires.
 
Jethro said:
I’m a 1/2 ton C rated guy. Normal work and play driving I just believe if I hit something that cuts thru 6 plys, good chance it would go thru an extra 4
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I've had a few issues trying to nurse a bald set of tires through the summer and getting into the shale with them. More ply's would not have helped my cheap ass in that situation :ROFLMAO:

I stuck some 10ply toyo mt's on my tacoma years back. At 7psi they were slightly lumpy in the morning, other n that you couldnt tell they were even aired down. Pretty sure I coulda ran without the valve stems in on those stupid things
 
Steve300xcw said:
I worry more about that than I do what ply they are. Least I do unless we start talking about a heavier truck.

Its amusing to me, how much of an issue some folks have with just keeping air in their tires :ROFLMAO:
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I put 4k to 7k miles a month on my GMC Canyon (2022 with 160k on it) and a lot of that is on gravel oil field roads. I have had 1 low tire (screw in tire) through 2 sets of Goodyear DuraTrac load E tires. Each set has gotten me 80k miles. One of my previous employers gave us company trucks. We would get a new truck on hire and every 75k miles they would order a new one. The stock tires on a 1/2 ton truck would last 10k to 15k and would have to be replaced due to wear and number of punctures (more than 2 repairs on any one tire meant a new set). We always got rugged terrain load E tires and never had another tire issue until the truck was mileaged out. Scoria rock roads will shred a soft tire and puncture tires with thin cores.

Ask a rancher if he wants load C or load E on his feed truck or salt truck or fence truck. Anything that actually gets driven offroad and you will get an answer of load E for the tougher tire carcass. There are things out here that just work for people who use their vehicle as a tool and not as a toy. Load E tires just work for the guys that need them. I don't need load E tires on my Jeep cause it is a toy for the hills and isn't used for making me money. If I lose a tire out hunting it is an inconvenience. If I lose a tire on the way to service a drilling rig it could cost me my job or depending on the weather, my life. Some of us don't live our lives in the city.

Jay
 
willfrye027 said:
I went with 255/75/17 on my 2nd gen tacoma. Gave me the tallest tire that would fit stock suspension. At the same time I did rear air lockers and went with a mud terrain tread so not exactly apples to apples compared with the previous all terrain tires. Plus I am usually aired down when tackling nasty stuff..the extra height/ground clearance is also helpful in those situations. The truck is much more capable than my driving and will take me places I should not be driving.

IMO I think the diameter thing is getting way into the weeds of things that matter in a tire. If the skinny tire makes the most sense for your rig then go for it, I do not regret it but in my case it was for more ground clearance and fitting the tire in the existing wheel well.
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I also use the 255/75/17’s on a 4th gen 4Runner. Small 3/2 suspension lift. Biggest stock tire that doesn’t require any sort of modification / body chop. (Had to take an heat gun to the mud flaps, which was minor and eliminated the rubbing in reverse with the steering wheel cranked.). And the spare tire fits entirely under the vehicle. (No way am I messing around with a spare that has to go inside the vehicle or mounted on the back. What a pain).

Used the 6 ply Cooper st maxx for the last 5 years or so. They worked very well. Went to have a new set put on a few weeks ago and found out they aren’t offered in that size anymore. Switched to the KO3’s. They seem to have less road noise than the Coopers did. Will have to see how they perform long term and in the snow/mud. So far so good.
 
Maverick1 said:
That’s right. Appreciate your perspective.

Some of us don’t live our lives in the city.

Some of us don’t live our lives on the ranch.

Everyone should choose the right tire for their situation.

And every situation is different.
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Yep. There is not one correct answer for everything. Otherwise we would only have one brand of firearm in one caliber with one type of bullet. We would only have one brand of automobile with one design, color, motor, and drive train. We have to optimize the parts and pieces of our lives to best fit our CURRENT circumstances. 20 year old me and 50 year old me have completely different needs. We change and evolve as we grow and our lives change. If I didn't live where the weather tries to kill you half the year I might get by with some load C tires that don't have a tread design that gives you tinnitus...

Jay
 
The Guide said:
Ask a rancher if he wants load C or load E on his feed truck or salt truck or fence truck. Anything that actually gets driven offroad and you will get an answer of load E for the tougher tire carcass. There are things out here that just work for people who use their vehicle as a tool and not as a toy. Load E tires just work for the guys that need them. I don't need load E tires on my Jeep cause it is a toy for the hills and isn't used for making me money. If I lose a tire out hunting it is an inconvenience. If I lose a tire on the way to service a drilling rig it could cost me my job or depending on the weather, my life. Some of us don't live our lives in the city.

Jay
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Nothin like a tire thread to bring out the opinions :ROFLMAO:

How many ranchers out there are running f150's for work trucks?
 
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