Pistol Red Dot Durability

[croben]

Aimpoint Acro P2 is the best RDS on the market. If you don’t go with the Acro, at least go with a closed emitter.

 

[Samson7x]

Acro or RMR for me.

 

[Formidilosus]

Can you elaborate a bit on this? What kind of fails are most common for RMRs, as well as ACROs, with these large agency volumes.

At this point “fails” isn’t really the right word. RMR’s are durable enough- though some issues remain with recoil.
The issues in comparison to the Acro P2 and COA is open emitter, requirement to remove for battery replacement, window size/shape, and color distortion. There just isn’t a real good reason to choose one over and Acro unless the smal difference in size a true eliminator.

 

[Rckymtnshooter]

I have an array of pistol red dots. All that I buy now are holosuns. Probably have somewhere around 8 of them. Never had an issue at all. I'm an avid uspsa shooter and have a ton of rounds on some of them. I have a comp model on Freedom Arms 454 Casull. No zero issues at all. I work part time in a gun store. We sell by far more Holosuns than anything else. I honestly don't remember anyone ever bringing one back with a problem. Not saying they're the best but they have more than proven themselves reliable for me.

 

[RockAndSage]

At this point “fails” isn’t really the right word. RMR’s are durable enough- though some issues remain with recoil.
The issues in comparison to the Acro P2 and COA is open emitter, requirement to remove for battery replacement, window size/shape, and color distortion. There just isn’t a real good reason to choose one over and Acro unless the smal difference in size a true eliminator.

That COA looks pretty promising, and interesting. But right now it also looks like it's essentially a Glock-only product, unfortunately. Staccato doesn't even have a mounting plate available for it yet. I'd definitely prefer a closed emitter, but the Holosun options just don't work with my eyes, and the ACRO's mailbox size seems pretty excessive for concealed carry... any thoughts or info on Trijicon's RCR?

 

[jonpall]

That COA looks pretty promising, and interesting. But right now it also looks like it's essentially a Glock-only product, unfortunately. Staccato doesn't even have a mounting plate available for it yet. I'd definitely prefer a closed emitter, but the Holosun options just don't work with my eyes, and the ACRO's mailbox size seems pretty excessive for concealed carry... any thoughts or info on Trijicon's RCR?

I've heard good things about the RCR but wouldn't know as much as form. I have also heard good things about the Steiner MPS and might get one for my M&p since it can be had for a few hundred less than the acro or rcr but seems to have good durability but worse battery life.

 

[geistacwm]

Still using an RMR because it’s works for me, and have made it a point not to buy the “next greatest thing” out of curiosity.

I think I was sold on durability by Overton Windex, but haven’t dropped my carry yet.

 

[EuroOptic]

The RMR is the benchmark, if you are going to be crawling around in the mud & muck, do an ACRO or a RCR.

I give slight points to the ACRO, simply because i like their mounting system better.

The new type 3 RMR is a combo between the type 2 rmr and the sro, Huge window, Unbreakable, Forward facing ambient light sensor means your dot will always be at the correct brightness level, donut of death reticle is quick and accurate.

I personally run ACRO's on most of my handguns that actually get used, I even have one on my Marlin trapper 45-70.

-Jake

 

[xrangerx]

Having used both, I prefer the Acro too

 

[Fatcamp]

Slide has returned. Functions properly and the fit is very tight.

Oddest thing: When just the 2moa dot is on its blooms something fierce. Put an 8moa circle around it and it looks perfect. Astigmatism is a funny creature.

 

[Dave0317]

One more uh…data point…if you can call it that:

Not as scientific as Sage Dynamics, but I don’t think he has reviewed the COA yet.

I like mine so far. Have also carried a Holosun 507, that I’ve not had any issues with. The fact that the window measurement is smaller on paper for the COA, pretty much makes exactly zero difference in actual use. If anything the COA is easier to acquire the dot because it is mounted so low in the slide. Shot to shot dot tracking/return is no perceptible difference between the two.

 

[AlphaK9]

Another vote for the Acro P2- it's on my duty pistol, and gets road hard at work.

 

[TradLife406]

I really like Trijicon. I have three.

I also have a couple holosuns on a couple SBRs and for $200 they ain't bad. I definitely wouldn't pick it if I knew 100% I'd be in a firefight with it. But they seem to be good for a civilian who has a less than 5% chance of getting to a gunfight with one.
Why my carry guns have Trijicon.


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[Wprinkle]

So.. My staccato came with a holosun and thats what Im stuck with until I upgrade to the ACRO as suggested. I have an issue and two questions.

ISSUE: when shooting outdoors I have to turn up brightness to see the holographic. But when inside practicing presentations I have to turn it down or I get washout.

QUESTION 1. Do I leave the optic set for outside as shots will have a better chance to be at distance in a PD situation and use the irions for inside when situations will more than likely be within 5 meters? Or?

QUESTION 2. Is this only an issue because of the type/brand of optic and will the ACRO cure this?

 

[croben]

So.. My staccato came with a holosun and thats what Im stuck with until I upgrade to the ACRO as suggested. I have an issue and two questions.

ISSUE: when shooting outdoors I have to turn up brightness to see the holographic. But when inside practicing presentations I have to turn it down or I get washout.

QUESTION 1. Do I leave the optic set for outside as shots will have a better chance to be at distance in a PD situation and use the irions for inside when situations will more than likely be within 5 meters? Or?

QUESTION 2. Is this only an issue because of the type/brand of optic and will the ACRO cure this?

I recommend to set your dot for the brightest situation you might use it in and leave it. Your dot will be bright in darker settings, but it’s better than not seeing it in a brighter situation. Keep both eyes open and stay target/threat focused and you’ll be fine, especially when considering the majority of self defense shootings happen 7 yards and in. This ain’t just an issue with the Holosun. The Acro has the same issue.