Piss Ant vs. Norma at NRL

[huntnful]

This is the new setup I’m switching to this year. 6.5-7 PRC with a 156 Berger at 3100-3150fps.

Hit rate within 1% of the 7-300 at 600 yards, but 20% less recoil. That’s a pretty good trade off IMO

 

[Firestone]

156s going 3100+ haha I'm a little jealous

 

[Lawnboi]

Looking at the wez what’s really surprising is the number of shooters that are hitting 90+ % in a timed match environment nearly everywhere they shoot.

Shooters as a whole are a lot better than they used to be. Atleast at these style games they are.

 

[huntnful]

Looking at the wez what’s really surprising is the number of shooters that are hitting 90+ % in a timed match environment nearly everywhere they shoot.

Shooters as a whole are a lot better than they used to be. Atleast at these style games they are.

It is borderline unreal honestly. The top shooter only missed 4 first round impacts on the first day. And that was 44 target engagements, on the clock, from 250 to about 850 yards.

Now all the targets vary in size and there were no 900 yard ground squirrel targets haha. But still VERY impressive hit rates to see after shooting it myself and experiencing the difficulty. The wind was mild both days as well.

 

[solarshooter]

Looking at the wez what’s really surprising is the number of shooters that are hitting 90+ % in a timed match environment nearly everywhere they shoot.

Shooters as a whole are a lot better than they used to be. Atleast at these style games they are.

It is borderline unreal honestly. The top shooter only missed 4 first round impacts on the first day. And that was 44 target engagements, on the clock, from 250 to about 850 yards.

Very impressive for sure. I'm curious how the wind calling works on these stages. Do shooters get to observe other shooters before doing the stage? Said differently, is there any way they are getting info on wind before shooting? I'm also curious what the "number of shooters that are hitting 90+%" is. For instance, the top shooter hit 40/44, which is 91%. Seems likely then that really only one or two shooters are in the 90s for hit rates. Just want to quantify these statements.

Edit: Also, if you took a weighted average of hit rates "from 250 to about 850 yards", I wonder how accurately WEZ would predict the actual outcomes. Anything sub 400ish is probably near 100% hit rate, which could really bump that avg hit rate up.

 

[wind gypsy]

Very impressive for sure. I'm curious how the wind calling works on these stages. Do shooters get to observe other shooters before doing the stage? Said differently, is there any way they are getting info on wind before shooting? I'm also curious what the "number of shooters that are hitting 90+%" is. For instance, the top shooter hit 40/44, which is 91%. Seems likely then that really only one or two shooters are in the 90s for hit rates. Just want to quantify these statements.

Edit: Also, if you took a weighted average of hit rates "from 250 to about 850 yards", I wonder how accurately WEZ would predict the actual outcomes. Anything sub 400ish is probably near 100% hit rate, which could really bump that avg hit rate up.

Stages are supposed to be blind but I'd guess there is a pretty good chance of knowing direction of fire and general feeling for what wind might be doing in that direction.

Target sizes vary so you can over generalize by distance pretty easy. A prairie dog @ 350 with variable wind isn't a gimme.

 

[huntnful]

Very impressive for sure. I'm curious how the wind calling works on these stages. Do shooters get to observe other shooters before doing the stage? Said differently, is there any way they are getting info on wind before shooting? I'm also curious what the "number of shooters that are hitting 90+%" is. For instance, the top shooter hit 40/44, which is 91%. Seems likely then that really only one or two shooters are in the 90s for hit rates. Just want to quantify these statements.

Edit: Also, if you took a weighted average of hit rates "from 250 to about 850 yards", I wonder how accurately WEZ would predict the actual outcomes. Anything sub 400ish is probably near 100% hit rate, which could really bump that avg hit rate up.

You have to stay back from the actual stage, out of sight of it, about 50 yards. But while you’re up there waiting, you can get wind speeds and make assumptions for the general direction you think you’ll be shooting.

Target sizes vary a lot and yes, very few shooters actually had a 90% first round hit rate. Basically 1% of the shooters during the match I attended for instance.

 

[huntnful]

156s going 3100+ haha I'm a little jealous

It’s a super simple little wild cat. But most of that speed comes from running a 26” barrel. I was shooting them at 3050fps in my 22” barrel.

 

[Lawnboi]

Targets in nrl are generally fairly large. The same is happening in PRS. Good shooters are 80-90% usually with more targets 1.5moa or smaller.

Used to be if you could shoot 80% you were in the running. Now it’s not uncommon to see guys dropping single digit points over a day. The level of competition and equipment has grown a lot.

Everyone should engage in some kind of shooting sport imo. **** football!

 

[huntnful]

Targets in nrl are generally fairly large. The same is happening in PRS. Good shooters are 80-90% usually with more targets 1.5moa or smaller.

Used to be if you could shoot 80% you were in the running. Now it’s not uncommon to see guys dropping single digit points over a day. The level of competition and equipment has grown a lot.

Everyone should engage in some kind of shooting sport imo. **** football!

Agreed. I am a much better shooter, spotter, position builder and learner, after just $175 entry and 2 days of following around guys that were better than me. Shooting “skills” at a local event and pairing up with someone seasoned that you can learn from is a great investment of time and money IMO.

Yeah you can “game” the event a little of course. But I only used my hunting gear that I carry for every hunt on every single stage except one. And even then, the only main advantage to some stages was just having a tall bipod. Literally just a tall bipod, a rear bag and a glassing type tripod and you can confidently shoot the whole event if you practice with that equipment.

 

[Lawnboi]

Agreed. I am a much better shooter, spotter, position builder and learner, after just $175 entry and 2 days of following around guys that were better than me. Shooting “skills” at a local event and pairing up with someone seasoned that you can learn from is a great investment of time and money IMO.

Yeah you can “game” the event a little of course. But I only used my hunting gear that I carry for every hunt on every single stage except one. And even then, the only main advantage to some stages was just having a tall bipod. Literally just a tall bipod, a rear bag and a glassing type tripod and you can confidently shoot the whole event if you practice with that equipment.

Plenty of that gaming can be carried over to hunting. Iv shot more deer off a bag on a rock than I have prone since learning how to make a solid position. Same can be said for using a tripod as rear support, plenty of opportunity to employ it in the field given proficiency.

Sure is easy to break a good shot when your reticle isn’t moving at all.

 

[huntnful]

Plenty of that gaming can be carried over to hunting. Iv shot more deer off a bag on a rock than I have prone since learning how to make a solid position. Same can be said for using a tripod as rear support, plenty of opportunity to employ it in the field given proficiency.

Sure is easy to break a good shot when your reticle isn’t moving at all.

That’s exactly what I was trying to convey. Just didn’t do a very good job of it lol.

To me it’s not gaming. It’s the same shit I take hunting. I just learned how to use it more efficiently together and prove it’s a very capable and practical support system for varying terrain and distances.