Periodic Can use, is it worth the hassle?

[philcox]

Situation is that I live in California. I shoot mostly here (obviously). However, I do hunt out of state and shoot in Nevada with family a little.

Option: I can get a Can (NFA Trust as a Trustee) with my brother (NV res) and have it at his house for use when I need to there.

What this means is that I would be taking the can on/off. I could zero with can and without and figure the POI change. Not real sure if I would need to re-zero each time I put the can back on if I used some type of index mark or something to ensure is was spun on the same each time.

Just trying to figure if it is worth the hassle to get the Can in the trust and use it when possible, or since 80-90% of my shooting will be without it, just forget it.

 

[WeiserBucks]

Forget it.

 

[nm.otter]

No direct experience, but someone posted this a while back and it piqued my curiosity.

 

[philcox]

No direct experience, but someone posted this a while back and it piqued my curiosity.

I wonder how the loudness compared to just a plain 223 or 65CM barrel without it. Wonder if the break, while reducing recoil increases the loudness, and does the redirection mitigate the increased sound.

 

[waspocrew]

Sounds like a pain - I'd go without the can.

 

[atmat]

I wouldn’t pay the cost, deal with trusts, and potentially be re-zeroing all for <10% of my shooting.

 

[The Harbor Master]

Not worth it for 10-20% of your use.

 

[E.Shell]

I have several rifles that I use with direct-thread suppressors.

They all return to zero when removing and replacing the suppressor.

They all show a minor zero change between having a bare muzzle and a mounted suppressor, with most simply shooting a few MOA lower with the can and others barely affected.

 

[Formidilosus]

I’ll be the dissenter. I absolutely would get a can for whatever use I had.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Move out of California, then you can use a silencer whenever you want (as long as you choose a state with sensible laws).

 

[omicron1792]

Agree with Form. Use the can when you can.

 

[HandgunHTR]

I would get the can, especially if your brother would use it when you can’t.

As others have said, you can figure out the POI shift with the can and without. The two zeros (with and without) will remain the same, you will just have to know how much to dial for each situation. It will be repeatable.

 

[Tbone26]

I would just put together an entire separate rifle with a can for out of state use.

 

[atmat]

I would get the can, especially if your brother would use it when you can’t.

^^ OP — if your brother is using the can in your absence, then that might change my opinion. I hadn’t considered that.

 

[BRTreedogs]

It’s only money.

You can put the zero offset into your ballistic calculator.

It will probably cause you to realize how stupid Ca is and move.

Good luck

 

[wind gypsy]

If you're already shooting in NV a fair bit i'd be tempted to get one. I wouldn't get one and then go out of your way to shoot with it in NV if you could instead just shoot more/travel less near home.

In general spin on/spin off zero should be good. If your brother is shooting with it a bunch and adds an ounce of carbon to it since the last time you shot it maybe there'd be some shift but otherwise I think people overthink that aspect.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

I think I'd proceed with getting one. The benefits are better in a hunting situation when you're out of state anyway. For the range at home you'll be wearing ear pro. You'll be able to use it in whatever non-commie states you go hunt in, of course picking it up in NC could be a logistics issue but it's a good option to have.

 

[coast range]

I’d make a deal with your brother. You get the can, he gets a rifle. He can use it anytime you’re not there. Win/win

 

[Kaleb]

No way I’d do it for 10-20% of your shooting. The ideal barrel length for suppressed versus unsuppressed is not the same in my opinion. Like somone mentioned the only way it would make sense to me is setup a rifle with a can and leave it on it. Let your family shoot it while you’re away and you shoot it when you’re there. I wouldn’t even consider changing zero each time for with or without a can.

The benefit of a suppressor is reduced sound and recoil. Yes sometimes animals are not as affected by a can but sometimes they are. We have already been told how stupid we are for shooting it without ear protection. So if you’re going to use ear protection anyway the only benefit is reducing recoil. So I can’t imagine going through the hassle if I’m only going to use it 10-20% of the time. It’s only money and we don’t know each others finances. If a new rifle setup up with a suppressor is nothing to your budget by all means get it.

 

[UnckleBob]

Wait until Jan 1 when the $200 Stamp goes away. A one shot trust through Silencer Shop is not hard to deal with at all.