PA CWD Proposal = Kill em all

[Chad.frank]

The PA Game Commission is struggling with CWD. If an adequate solution can not be found. Then it may be best to let nature take its course. Killing off the deer intentionally is no better for the hunters than if CWD killed off the deer. Plus, it’s not better for the deer either.

Just remember that one of the best strategies right now is to have less deer per square mile. Less deer mean less chance for it to spread. Brian Richards made a CWD distribution map that covers the years of 2001-2017 here in Wisconsin. If anyone has any doubt about not doing anything to help combat this all they need to do is go check that out. It’s on the Wisconsin DNR website under cwddistribution


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[Chad.frank]

Just remember that one of the best strategies right now is to have less deer per square mile. Less deer mean less chance for it to spread. Brian Richards made a CWD distribution map that covers the years of 2001-2017 here in Wisconsin. If anyone has any doubt about not doing anything to help combat this all they need to do is go check that out. It’s on the Wisconsin DNR website under cwddistribution


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https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/hunt/documents/cwddistribution.pdf

This is the link to the map.


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[Michael54]

They tried that here. The hunters rioted. The same hunters are the ones that refuse to get their deer tested. I live on the outside of the one zone and plan on filling 4 tags and having them all tested.

 

[Jimss]

Here in Colo the CPW was in panic mode when CWD was first discovered in the muledeer population on the North Front Range and another small pocket near Craig.. The CPW went on mass culling spreas in the so-called "highly infested" areas. In those areas there were only 1% or less of the total deer had it. Most of the deer didn't even show signs of CWD until tested. When only 0.05 to 1% of the total population in the highest infested areas had CPW they finally decided culling was almost meaningless. Coyotes and winterkill would kill the few sick animals present. The muledeer are still slowly recovering in those areas that were almost culled to 0 populaton....and I'm sure the prions in those areas are still present. Across the border in Wyo the WG&F was smart enough not to do any culling.

I'm not sure if whitetails are similar to muledeer?

 

[Michael54]

Pa whitetails are completely different. 1. The area for the deer is alot smaller which means they are congregated a lot closer together than out west. 2. The size of the groups of deer. Its not uncommon for me to see 50 or more whitetail in the hayfield below my house in an evening routinely.

 

[Chad.frank]

Here in Colo the CPW was in panic mode when CWD was first discovered in the muledeer population on the North Front Range and another small pocket near Craig.. The CPW went on mass culling spreas in the so-called "highly infested" areas. In those areas there were only 1% or less of the total deer had it. Most of the deer didn't even show signs of CWD until tested. When only 0.05 to 1% of the total population in the highest infested areas had CPW they finally decided culling was almost meaningless. Coyotes and winterkill would kill the few sick animals present. The muledeer are still slowly recovering in those areas that were almost culled to 0 populaton....and I'm sure the prions in those areas are still present. Across the border in Wyo the WG&F was smart enough not to do any culling.

I'm not sure if whitetails are similar to muledeer?

The animals do not show any signs of being sick until the final couple weeks before death. They can carry the disease for nearly 2 years before showing signs of having it. And what’s making finding a cure even worse is the fact that the prisons are not living organisms.


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[Wmmichael20]

They did the same garbage here in Michigan,and after two years of it the genius dnr has now put antler point restrictions ... making much sense to you ....cuz it sure doesn't to me...blast everything for a couple years and now hold on only take bucks that are 4 point per side....wtf is their real plan.

 

[Michael54]

Its frustrating for sure. The lack of education on it is baffling as well. Ive even seen posts saying cwd was fabricated by the auto insurance industry. People not getting their deer tested. And they all point to wyoming as their reasoning without understanding how spread out wyomings deer herd is compared to pennsylvania. As of next year we will no longer be able to put out feeders at any time in the year or use any attractant scents. I know any deer i harvest gets packaged and stored separately until the test results come back. Thankfully since we started doing it that way 3 years we havent had one test positive yet. I'm not going to knowingly consume or feed my family anything that can potentially harm them. It's baffling how little we know about this with it being around since the 60's

 

[lyle_destroys]

How is BHA working to contain the spread? I'm not picking on BHA. I'm just interested in how any organization can contain CWD.
My opinion: Until testing methods improve the percentage of hunter-killed deer tested in voluntary areas will be low.

Pa has test drop offs but guys that have used them never heard anything back positive or negative. Simply following up with people would be a huge incentive.

 

[PA Hunter]

I don’t trust anything the PA game commission says or does. They already decimated the deer population in Tioga County where our cabin is. In the 80s and 90s I use to see plenty of deer now I can hunt a whole week and see only a few maybe. I like the antler restrictions but I will never shoot a doe again.

 

[Michael54]

I don’t trust anything the PA game commission says or does. They already decimated the deer population in Tioga County where our cabin is. In the 80s and 90s I use to see plenty of deer now I can hunt a whole week and see only a few maybe. I like the antler restrictions but I will never shoot a doe again.

Potter county in the 80's was really bad as well. I was just a kid and don't exactly remember the reasoning behind it. We go in spurts on does when we seem to be overwhelmed with then we shoot the biggest oldest ones as much as possible. Having our own farm to manage the deer how we see fit is nice. From what i read it seemed like wisconsin had it almost under control and then the hunters voted in new politicians and they are basically back to square one.

 

[BoulderMountain]

Up until 2006 my 160 acre hayfield had more than one deer per acre in it every night. Way too many deer and we have a vast amount of posted property in the surrounding 10 miles. Exactly June 2007, the number of deer was half in the field, 2008 same and by 2012, seeing a deer was a surprise. This cwd problem started long ago and the PGC is way late to the party. My son and I were just out tonight looking at 8 deer in the field. It was nothing to see every cut field in this valley hold 100 plus deer up until 2007. Now it’s common to see small family groups, that’s it. Habitat didn’t change, development didn’t occur and the only thing that has changed I can identify positively is the coyote numbers are up. CWD is bad.

 

[Trial153]

Hunters are their own worst enemies, with their conspiracy theorys and lack of education on the subject. The constant inferences to game commission being inept gets old as well especially considering most of criticism is based on anecdotal observations.

 

[Wmmichael20]

In Michigan the first year turning in your head was required,the second year was optional and this year being #3 I've seen crates randomly placed with signs on them that says cwd testing, it can take anywhere from 5 days to 3 weeks to get results from the testing. You check online using your driver's license number which is on your kill tag.

 

[T3clay]

They have been going through this in southern Minnesota for years... This year they dropped antler point restrictions, OTC tags for everyone, bonus tags for $2, and extended the season. It's a joke